# User talk:LittleDan/Archive

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Hi, LittleDan. Congratulations on becoming a sysop. It's a nice map you put on the Bougainville page, but I was wondering if we have permission to use it. With pictures like that from other websites, there may be problems of copyright. Do you know who owns the map? Danny 00:52 Mar 11, 2003 (UTC)

Okay. I don't know what the rule is though. You may want to check with mav or brion or ed poor first though to make sure we can use it. Danny

Hi again. Someone answered you on Mav's page. Danny 01:48 Mar 11, 2003 (UTC)

some more on Mav's page. --mav 04:22 Mar 11, 2003 (UTC)

I'm impressed that a young man has knowledge of, and interest in, Jacquard looms. User:Black Widow

Please slow down a little -- the stuff you are doing with A, B, C really has too many typos...

What typos did I make? LittleDan
Just look at the Older version and see for yourself: Quote signs deleted and imbalanced, missing capitalization, not proper sentences. I don't mind that amount of typos if new and useful content is added, but for pure re-arrangements, any added value is lost. -- Egil 04:47 Mar 17, 2003 (UTC)

Hi LittleDan. Thanks for those quick links you put in for Leopards, Half Florins and Quarter Florins. I'll have to be quick to put more links in when I do Angels and Nobles (probably tomorrow!). :-) -- Arwel 01:30 Mar 18, 2003 (UTC)

Dont put links into titlesSusan Mason

LittleDan, this is in response to your question about whether I copied the Felix the Cat article I sent in. The answer is no. I used Charles Solomon's The History of Animation and some webpages as sources, but everything is in my own words.

I apologize if I should have just replied to this on my own talk page and left it at that. I'm still a bit unfamiliar with the wiki interface!

Um, oh yeah. I should sign this: User talk:BrianSmithson

Regarding 1 E{n} J pages, content comes next, right now I'm getting them all there so they can be followed in a chain without missing links. -- JohnOwens 23:44 Mar 26, 2003 (UTC)

I'm not sure. THese were bizarre because they had her living till 9000 AD. I guess it depends on the page. I didn't see the others. Danny

Please do not vandalize capitalism.org again. Dietary Fiber

Dont forget to sign your name. The capitalism page is big enough as it is, all the quotes were official statements by capitalism.org and are thus related to that website. Dietary Fiber

I'd hardly call removing a huge list of contextless quotes "vandalism", though it would perhaps have been better to replace it with useful information. --Brion 07:36 Apr 5, 2003 (UTC)
Hm, the article is controversial, and 'capitalism.org' does not deserve more coverage simply for racing first to the DNS registry. That shows if anything that they have a bias to presenting it a certain way. It is not vandalism to remove a large number of quotes from one source, when there are so many perspectives to cover. EofT

Hoom, LittleDan, the World Values Survey is interesting, but have you noticed, our attempts to survey value systems here get little participation. Perhaps you can change that? Else we run the risk of hasty decisions, very bad, hm, hoom, yes, very bad indeed. EofT

Hi, regarding Open mapping theorem: this is indeed highly specialized and not very relevant to people other than graduate students in math or physics. However, I think all terms that appear in that article are defined or have a link to their definition. If not, let me know. Cheers, AxelBoldt 16:18 Apr 14, 2003 (UTC)

Please expand BB gun -- Zoe

Ahh, thankyou. You beat me to it, Dan. Tannin

See my comment on Talk:Kalasin - I'm not sure if these disambiguation is needed. andy 21:02 Apr 17, 2003 (UTC)

Dan, it's not spelled Hardon but Hadron :-) looxix 00:31 Apr 19, 2003 (UTC)

In response to your Toki Pona language comment: Which Befunge interpreter are you using? -Lament

Re: homeschooling, have you (or perhaps more importantly, your parents) read any books by John Holt? -- Stephen Gilbert 02:55 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)

Of course I am. Like a Virgin

Please note that BMP images are not recommended for Wikipedia. The Image:Circumcenter.bmp that you uploaded is over 400 kilobyte in size! The PNG version at Image:Circumcenter.png is just over 2 kilobyte. The difference of Wikipedia load is considerable, as you might understand. -- Egil 04:35 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)

And of course, BMP is a fairly strange format to use for someone who claims to hate Microsoft... :) Lament

Which ones, some that I have found have been very confusing and misleading. I've only tried to put in stuff clarifying what I already found to make it more accurate. If you give me a specific example I will try and look at it and get back to you. If you have specific comments about specific articles, please put it on the talk pages there. Alex756 23:31 May 4, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, the oldest meaning of estoppel has to do with a rule of evidence which, if you read the brief definition is included, but in the twentieth century it has taken on a much more important general meaning which is what I have tried to summarize here. You are right that it is too brief, but I just started it yesterday as I think anyone who has any background in the law will want to add something. Thanks for your comment Dan, I do want to try and make the Wikipedia readable and useful. Alex756 I've put an example in the article and tried to make it as simple (and accurate) as possible, let me know if it works for you. Thanks. Alex756

Would you by any chance have Asperger's syndrome? Your interests are atypical (though this is a good thing).

Zoe's allegation that I was adding inappropriate material to Lynne Thigpen is false. I really can't force you people to take the time to be reasonable and discuss your problems, but all edits are recorded and I think the evidence is quite clearly in support of me, it's a shame that that the wikipedia is so fond of sham trials, such is the legacy of totalitarianism. 172.172.13.108

You have email. 172.172.13.108

Dan — I've gotten your message and I am quite flattered, but I have only been participating in Wikipeddia for a few weeks. I know that is not necessarily an indication of my ability to contribute but I am not quite sure what being a sysop will change in relation to my contributions. I looked at the mailing list and saw your nomination but I didn't see any negative comments on the list, were these things said off-list? If you could let me know the substance of the comments (you can email me if you don't want to post it on a User talk page) I'll try and check the archive to see if I've missed any postings since your nomination. I am not quite sure it I should accept the nomination or not. Alex756

That's funny about them worrying about discrimination, actually being a white male over 40 (and a lawyer) many people are worried about discriminating against me (not that I try to throw my weight around). I know there is a bit of a pecking order around here and I am perfectly happy to keep making contributions, I find it very relaxing compared to most of the stressful stuff I do in my life and I can fit it in around my busy schedule (except for those bouts of Wikiholism — but that's not for minors like you!) If I accept should I tell you or just post it on the list? I thought someone has to second the nomination for it really to be considered by the other sysops (maybe I should check the page on the Robert's Rules of Order)? — Alex756
Dan, I've thought it over and I'll accept your nomination. I see that it is not a big deal and that it will even help me work on some things (like some queries via SQL that can help find some stuff). I promise you I won't abuse or overuse any of the privileges and I look forward to continued contributing to Wikipedia, isn't it a great project! Alex756 19:00 May 14, 2003 (UTC)
Did you take a look at Wikipedia:Database queries? It has some queries written out and a click through link to the query page for administrators. Alex756
Sorry Dan. I was half-way through popping a note about that here for you as a courtesy, when I got distracted and now Alex has beaten me to it. (You know Old Tannin: want to change the subject? Just wave something shiny and he forgets all about whatever he was thinking about a moment ago.) Tannin

I'm not quite sure what the libel issue you want me to consider is? Do you mean the implications of someone libeling someone on a page? I think that because anyone can post anything here as long as reasonable steps are taken to remove it then how could Wikipedia be held responsible? If the administrators and developers ignore it and the person who is allegedly being libeled complains and no one removes it (and remember if someone is libeled, unless it is on a protected page they can at least remove it from the current version page, and then request to have the history deleted by a sysop). So I don't really see if there is much of a libel problem. But maybe I did not understand you question. Alex756

As far as the 'we' question, I think that even if Wikipedia is considered some kind of association (did you see my page on Meta-Wikipedia, I know it is confusing, tax law is, even to accountants!) the members can't really be held liable, just like a bulletin board the person posting the information is responsible. As far as getting sued, yes, anyone in the US can file a lawsuit (and they often do). Some say it is one of the great things about this country. Others say that it is one of the worst. (how is that for NPOV!) As far as who they would sue, it is probably Bomis Inc. as they own the domain name, of course, Bomis' lawyers would just say that they are not liable for postings on Wikipedia as there is little way to control it beyond having sysops delete the pages (which is probably what you guys are doing if someone does post some libelous stuff. When I get a chance I'll try and look at the mailing list archive and review the discussion. Was it on the general Wikipedia thing or on the english WikiEN-L). Alex756 07:25 16 May 2003 (UTC)

I've found the Wikipedia:libel page and will try to read over it carefully. Thank's for the tip on the ampersands. I am assuming you are not talking about using them as special characters, but only in the actual text of a document thus you do not see <ampersand>copy; but © (the copyright symbol), this is what special characters seems to say. BTW, do you know how I can create a SM to look like the ™ mark (not the ® mark, that legally can only be used with registered trademarks)? Alex756
I get it now, it is not the ampersand but the mdash that I shouldn't use. I started using it when I saw someone else had used it, can I use the ndash? I looked on the spec char page again and it states: "commonly used and present in both Macintosh Roman and Windows code page 1252 character sets, are proper English quotation marks and dashes." What you are saying seems contrary to what is contained there, I thought it was o.k. to use these punctuation marks. Can you explain this descrepancy? Maybe you should change the spec. char page? Alex756
I'll go back to using the double dash, I just hate the overuse of parenthesis that I have seen here. Sometimes people put whole sentences in parenthesis, this is not good usage. sometimes the dashes work, but I though the long dashes would look better on the screen. I thought they were part of the default character set, thanks for setting me straight. Do you know how I can create a SM - for service mark - that looks like ™?Alex756
LittleDan did you see the note that tannin put about the EM and EN dash on my talk page ? Alex756 12:06 20 May 2003 (UTC)

I merged Linux and GNU/Linux, which is your offer in wikimoney. If you still think the article needs more work, let me know. -- Taku 15:51 15 May 2003 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the message. Sorry if you were in any way offended by what I had on my page. It was just me in editorialising mode! It happens just occasionally. I've been impressed by your work before I realised you were so young. Now I am deeply impressed. And you survived a savaging up above by Dietary Fiber, but then being savaged by Dietary Fiber is like discussing Aristotle with George W. Bush. It is a fun experience, but not for the reason they thought! Anyway, keep up the good work. ÉÍREman 02:18 16 May 2003 (UTC)

Damn! you deleted Larry's text (in the Knowledge article) so easily! it took me endless debates over the WikiEN mailing-list to come to the conclusion it shouldn't be deleted :) (but I still think it should have been, though, thanks) --Rotem Dan 15:49 18 May 2003 (UTC)

That's exactly what I thought, thanks for being bold for me ;) --Rotem Dan 15:59 18 May 2003 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the edits to List of Emulators. Looks like the article is shaping up nicely. However, I'm thinking that a categorization by emulated system (Amiga/Atari/NES/etc.) would be a lot more concise. Emulators are ported to new platforms all the time, so I'm worried there'll be lots of duplication of info. Comment at Talk:List of Emulators. Thanks! -- Wapcaplet 17:55 22 May 2003 (UTC)

Out of interest, since you are a Linux user, have you thought about getting into PHP and hacking on the Wikipedia code? There's a lot of work to do, and we can always use fresh brainzzzzzzz ... It's quite easy to get into, really. ---Eloquence 23:00 26 May 2003 (UTC)

Not, however, a stub by someone with a penchant for lies and misinformation. -- John Owens 22:33 31 May 2003 (UTC)

I could hardly have said it better than User:Ams80 did at User talk:KF. -- John Owens 23:01 31 May 2003 (UTC)

Hi Dan, please read what I have written on KF's talk page. If you decide to revert all the reversions that I have made then please check all the information is correct. Michael has a bad history of being not entirely accurate as many users will tell you. Good night -- Ams80 23:05 31 May 2003 (UTC)

For instance, he added The Rescuers and The Spy Who Loved Me to 1978 in film, and Grease (film) to 1977 in film. While not a completely authoritative source, IMDB puts Grease in 1978, and The Rescuers and The Spy Who Loved Me in 1977. If you're going to start reverting his edits, you should be prepared to fact-check each and every datum in there, like the 1978 date also given to The Rescuers in The Rescuers Down Under. -- John Owens 23:16 31 May 2003 (UTC)
Shoot, even The Rescuers article at least had the right 1977 date on it. You've been had. -- John Owens 23:20 31 May 2003 (UTC)

With regard to Karl Rove, I listen often to Book TV and put books featured there into Wikipedia articles; in some cases where no article exists. Fred Bauder 15:42 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I don't support the Wikipedia policy on stubs. A tiny bit is much better than nothing. A wonderful article could be written by someone who checks that book out and reads it. My addition to the article is like planting a seed. Fred Bauder 15:54 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Quit fooling around chatting and get onto Book TV (C-Span II) and catch the last half of Noam Chomsky's interview ;

you're right, but I don't approve of your signature, it's just stupid. LittleDan

Please don't be mean to Antonio. -- Oliver P. 01:36 7 Jun 2003 (UTC)

For the record, the word you removed from the South Park article was "irreverent", not "irrelevant". Something that is irreverent is sort of a disrespectful satire, which South Park certainly is. I think it's a bit redundant since the article states the show as "bawdy" and "satirical" (among several other things) so I have no problem with the omission. Just wanted you to know it wasn't the word you thought. -- goatasaur

You think the article is POV against South Park? I'm a fan of the show, and I honestly can't see any cause for complaint. -- goatasaur

Hi LD. Thanks for inserting the Republic of Ireland temp page. We have a problem there. Some months ago a user called Scipius got involved in a nasty edit war there when he tried to ignore the consensus on the page and bulldoze his version on to the page. (For example, he insisted that the page be called 'Ireland' not the 'Republic of Ireland' even though there was agreement that it should be called the R of I.) Now he is back again, trying to change an agreed version of the page to the one he wants, even though his version is littered with inaccuracies, blatently wrong facts, simplicities that completely mispresent the facts, etc. The more people tell him to stop the better, before another full scale edit war erupts, with him ignoring everyone else and going ahead with his rewrite anyway to a version he wants but which every Irish person tells him is wrong. wikilove. FearÉIREANN 03:20 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary. If you think prostration or prostrate can be turned into an encyclopaedic article, then do so. Otherwise a one sentence defintion of what the word means is not a suitable article for wikipedia. Mintguy

Prostration was only linked as a redirect by prostrate, and the only thing linking to prostrate was satan. As I stated above, if you can write an encyclopaedic article under prostrate that shouldn't be listed under something else then go ahead and write it. I'd be interested to know what subjects you intend to cover on this page. Simple definitions of what a word means are not suitable for Wikipedia. Mintguy

Hello User:LittleDan. Like you suggested I got a username, mainly because I wanted to upload an image to an article. Taking credit for contributions doesn't interest me, I don't really understand why it would:)
You may like to know more about what causes asperger's syndrome, basically it is from mercury exposure, mercury being the 2nd most toxic element to humans. Thimerosol, which they have put in immunisations for babies as a preservative since the 1930s, contains alot of mercury, as does fish (pollution) and some dental fillings (mercury in the mother can be passed to the child). Since it gives babies about several thousand times more exposure to mercury that they're meant to receive, those at the end of the spectrum who have more difficult in processing the mercury end up with a higher exposure, that meaning the production of a certain neuroprotein is further deminished (if my memory serves me right), leading to the autistic brain. There can be causes other than mercury, but they're rare. The symptomlist of mercury and autism overlap nearly perfectly. Mercury also affects the body's production of the things required for proper dietary mineral absorbsion, which is probably why autistics usually are deficient in zinc, which also elevates levels of copper. Zinc deficiency is very bad for the body and has negative neuropsychological effects, as does excess copper. If you've ever wondered why so many programmers have got glasses, you know now why.
I know about this because I've had minor asperger's syndrome myself, and mercury poisoning with the accompanying difficulties in being mineral deficient. It'd be worth your while researching up thoroughly on all this, there is plenty to find on google. One forewarning: never ever get amalgam fillings, and don't eat tuna, they will ruin your health (an interesting thing is that electromagnetic discharges from CRT monitors increase the release of mercury from amalgam fillings, this is probably why women who worked in front of computers before monitors got proper radiation shielding in the mid 1990s had a 1/3rd increased incidence of having offspring with birthdefects, yes now I am rambling). You wouldn't believe all the things that have got mercury in them (hair dyes, fabric softeners, fugicides, pesticides etc).
But don't get too worried, it isn't as bad as it sounds.
PS I have no idea how to sign a comment

Hi there Daniel. I see you have moved the content from the /temp of the article on Turkey to the article itself, and likewise for the UAE. Could I ask you to please not do that? In particular the Turkish one was very much incomplete and inaccurate in places. I have now completed that one and I will do likewise for the UAE article, but would please not move the /temp pages when they do not yet resemble the finished pages? You also did so with the RoI page, despite the fact that its many inconsistencies had been pointed out by Jeronimo (and don't place too much credit in JTD's theatrics above ;)). You've signed up for the WikiProject, so why not try to edit and complete the /temp pages yourself before you move them over? Thanks. -Scipius 21:17 29 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I know I shouldn't have done this, but I couldn't help myself. MB

That was an interesting piece you wrote about eventualism v. immediatism on the sandbox page, buy why didn't you post it on the meta? I agree with what you've written there, but you left out a third position. Let's call it constructivism. With a constructivist attitude, instead of merely blanking or ignoring a page, one fixes it. That's what I usually do, unless it is one of those "hdfyhxhnjrhgk" type pages that come up so often. LittleDan 00:49 16 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Belated reply... it was just an idle piece of whimsy, really. Not something I'd want to sign my name to in seriousness... but if you want to grab a copy and totally edit it and post it somewhere, then go ahead. :) Martin 21:04, 31 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I've responded to the last few comments on my talk page on my talk page. Alex756 23:35, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with you about the GNU FDL, it is not the greatest way to openly license content that is not technical. It was really written for software manuals and I was even wondering if someone puts something into Wikipedia and states that it is an invariant section is Wikipedia bound by that and must Wikipedia not modify it? If there has been a discussion about this somewhere please let me know, it would seem that Wikipedia is accepting the terms of the GNU FDL for material posted on any WIkipedia space, though I haven't thought about it a lot, perhaps there is something I don't quite understand about it since Wikipedia does not own the copyright of the underlying contributions (unlike GNU which demands ownership of all contributions, Jimbo has only suggested it here).
If anyone asked me I would come up with a much simipler and straightforward open content copyright license that incorporated copyleft thinking, i.e.
All contributors hereby grant Wikimedia Foundation Inc. a non-exclusive license in perpetuity to allow this material to be freely modified, republished or redistributed. All contributors grant an non-exclusive license to any and all third parties to allow this material to be freely modified, republished or redistributed on the specific conditions that (1) such third parties acknowledge that the material comes from Wikipedia (or another Wikimedia Foundation project if applicable) and (2) allow the material to be freely copied or adapted under terms similar to this license. In order to apply the license retroactively you would need something like this included: This license has been approved by the Free Software Foundation as a successor version to the GNU FDL version 1.2 but only as applying to materials posted on any or all Wikimedia Foundation projects from the beginning of time until the adoption of this license by Wikimedia Foundation Inc. as the default licensing scheme of all its projects. The contributor agrees that the license hereunder may be modified by Wikimedia Foundation Inc. as long as any modification is less restrictive (i.e. allows for more copying and redistribution) that granted herein.
-- Alex756 01:12, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)
It is vague LtlDan, but that is to allow relicensing under similar circumstances. I doubt if that will prevent anyone from relicensing, but some will say that it might be too vague and thus prevent anyone from relicensing. I wonder how much relicensing actually goes on, most people will just come back to Wikipedia and use the content they find here and readapt it to their use, don't you think? Certainly similar includes a license that is identical to the license stated above. A modified license might be more liberal and thus similar, but a more restrictive license would not be similar. It is, of course, open to interpretation, but then practically all relicensing schemes are subject to interpretation. As far as contacting FSF, maybe you should leave that to the board of Wikimedia Foundation once they get going, they may not agree with me or you don't you think? Alex756 01:52, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)
How about asking FSF if they will allow Wikipedia to have a special version of the GDU FDL that can be an update to ver. 1.2 that Wikipedia is currently using that will only apply to Wikipedia and will make it easier to use Wikimedia materials without some of the documentation type limitations found in their licenses. If they say yes, then maybe we can have a more general discussion about it and get more input on exactly how far people want the license to go, we can make it as specific as we want. Alex756 02:06, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Woah!
Main Page/Temp4 is deprecated in favour of Main Page/Temp5
Also, earlier votes were on a work-in-progress - I want a specific new vote to switch over to the new version, lest anyone challenge the democratic legitimacy of the change and we get another edit war.
-Martin ("dynamic content" fan)

You can use __NOTOC__ to prevent a table of contents appearing. Angela 16:58, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

## Main Page

LDan - the "vote" for the layout design of the Main Page is fatally flawed and meaningless; the vote went on as different options were added and dramatically changed and there was a great deal of confusion over what the term "new design" meant. We need to have a contest for the design akin to how the logo contest is being held. That way designers have a good deal of time to submit their ideas and refine them before a carefully run and fair vote. --mav 19:01, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Regarding your changes at the press release on meta, the url http://WikimediaFoundation.org is being used to prevent people misrembering http://Wikimedia.org and using http://Wikimedia.com which we don't own. Angela

You're right, it's not on the talk page. I don't know how I knew that. I can't find it mentioned on the mailing lists either. Anyway, I thought the mention that the press release itself was written on a wiki was a good idea. Angela 18:26, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Hi, you cast a vote in the TEMP5 debate. The Temp5 proposal was voted down by 61.3% to 38.6%. We seem to be going around in circlces on the whole issue of the main page. A new vote is now taking place to clarify what exactly we want, namely

1. Do we actually want to have a new page?
2. If so when (immediately, after a pause, timed to the press release, etc)?
3. What do people want on the front page and what do they want excluded?

As of now, the whole issue seems surrounded by complete confusion. This way, finally and definitively, we will know what we want and when we want it. So do please express your opinions. The vote is on the same page as the previous votes. FearÉIREANN 20:19, 13 Aug 2003 (UTC)

When RK comes back I want to nominate him for sysop (again) I dont ask for much, but I ask that you support his nomination. Sincerely-戴&#30505sv 23:16, Aug 16, 2003 (UTC)

Little Dan, did you see the Jimbo's posting on the Wikipedia-L list today about the incompatibility of various open content license and a proposed Lesser FDL LFDL? The LFDL would be a license that can be used to allow for various open content to be merged together, it would be simple and straightforward, this is along the lines that we were discussing at the beginning of the month, did you ever contact and/or hear from FSF? Alex756 17:58, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC) Opps, it was on the Textbook-l list, not the general list. Alex756

I noticed your message on User talk:Spiffy43. Just to warn you that might not get much sense out of this user; his last edit was create a page entitled Wikipedia Nazi that redirected to much my user page! Angela 16:28, Sep 13, 2003 (UTC)

Hi LDan, perhaps you'd like to answer the question at Talk:Tux that relates to you. (Also, I noticed, you have a wrong link Statkit 1 on your user page. You can correct it.) Jay 21:08, Sep 13, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Dan, please could have a look at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/copyvio within the next week as there seem to be some copyright issues over some images you uploaded. Thanks. Angela 17:34, Sep 23, 2003 (UTC)

(William M. Connolley 22:28, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)) I created sci opinion of global warming. I did actually think about this before doing it, oddly enough. Yet you have merged it with GW. The GW page is big enough; it doesn't need more text adding. Please unmerge the page (I've no idea how to do so).

Since you won't, I have. Because: as I said before: the GW page is big enough (like your talk page!); stuff about GW, but seperable, should be seperated; the last thing it needs is more merged in.
(William M. Connolley 13:02, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)) Wikipedia may not have a policy against long pages but it says things like "WARNING: This page is 36 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems..." if a page gets too long. That seems to me a good argument against long pages.

Continued, on the talk page of sci op of g w page.

Hey, LittleDan, did you get permission from the National Football League and the Miami Dolphins organization to put the Dolphins logo onto the Miami Dolphins Wikipedia page? If not, then it must be removed as it would be a copyright violation.

- 67.75.226.230


Hi LittleDan. A pretty minor point, but I was just looking at 2038, and in particular at the UNIX 31-bit overflow. You mention that many Java and JavaScript programs will fail. Now, this is almost certainly true, but I was wondering if there was any reason for mentioning Java in particular - after all, the Java libraries handle times in 64-bit longs of milliseconds since epoc, so it should be one of the more rubust languages with regard to this issue.

If you could drop a note here or on User_talk:Onebyone or Talk:2038 I'd much appreciate it - otherwise I'll make the comment more general, since it's by no means just Java programs that could be in trouble...

Cheers, Onebyone 23:33, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)

• Thanks for the further info on unix epoch. I know absolutely nothing about JavaScript (i.e. I've never used it), but quite a lot about Java (i.e. my job is to implement JVMs and Java library classes in assembler language to get faster runtime speeds). I really think that Java is a bad example to use of a language that breaks on dates beyond 2038, because while some programs are bound to be badly written, the language itself and its libraries are easily up to the job, and do not use 32 bit dates. (Well, they use 32 bits for the year number in places, which will cause problems beyond 2 billion AD). So if I'm wrong, please point me at an external source and I'll shut up. If it's only JavaScript that's affected, could you consider changing your comments to reflect that? -- Onebyone 15:18, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
• Hopefully old Java programs aren't affected, provided that they're correctly written. Because Java is a fairly new language (my history isn't that good, about 1990), it has always been based on 32 bit "int"s and 64 bit "long"s. Compare this with C, which usually uses 16 bit "int"s, 32 bit "long"s, and 64 bit quantities are considered a little bit exciting, and not available on all compilers. So Java dates have always been 64 bits. To use a 32 bit quantity for a date, you'd have to deliberately "cast" the long you get back from something like System.currentTimeMillis to an int. This use of 64 bit values right from the start is why they also have the luxury of measuring time in milliseconds since 1970, rather than seconds like a C/POSIX time_t. I'd suggest that for the time being, we reword the 2038 article to say something like "January 19th - 231 seconds since 00:00:00 1 Jan 1970 (UTC). Computers can no longer use a signed 32 bit value to store the time in seconds since that date. See unix epoch for the potential damage this may cause.", and keep all the discussion of particular problems and languages and comparison with Y2K in there. What do you think? -- Onebyone 00:00, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Why the compression and removal of the stubnote at György Kurtág? Dysprosia 15:09, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)

L'Dan, remember a few months back you nominated me for sysop/administrator? It was seconded by mav but I never learned the outcome of that process. As it was seconded there should have been a decision, can you point me to it? Thanks. Alex756

Tried editing the main page, but it is protected, so I guess I am not a sysop. Was anything ever done about it? Probably not. Alex756
Regarding your comment about asking the list about my sysop status I did that several times, I even referred to it at one point when someone else asked for sysop status and got no response about it about six weeks ago. I know this is a volunteer association without any hard and fast rules, but it is very frustrating for someone to get any kind of recognition even by applying for sysop status; and you know that I am also listed on the last list of the 200 most active Wikipedians. I just don't want to be too pushy, I don't think that is the kind of personality type I want to be known under at Wikipedia, I'm really not into self-promotion. Alex756

Hi LDan. You are right, Zug is German for "train", but it also means "draught". The Zugspitze is named after the winds, not the trains - it got its name long time before the invention of the railway ;-) Never mind, I will change it to "draught top" (although it appears to sound somewhat odd, doesn't it?) -- Cordyph 17:43, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Hi Dan, please can you explain your changes to the temp 5 page. See Talk:Main_Page/Temp5. Thanks. Angela 01:32, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I wasn't saying you had to discuss anything first, I just wanted to check if you had a reason for doing it before I reverted it. I thought maybe it wasn't looking small in a different browser or something. Hopefully you won't mind it being changed back as it seems unreadably small now. Angela 01:45, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
It looks half the size of the current main page on my screen. Hang on a minute I'll do a screenshot. Angela
See http://angela.fused.org/sizes.htm
My fault for not having Mozilla to check it in myself! Angela 02:26, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)

## Objection to your removal of fair use baseball logos

Dear L'Dan, I just want you to know that I object to the removal of the baseball logos. First they are not trademark infringement IMO. Trademark infringement can only occur if you are using the logos in a similar manner that there are used for by the TM owners. Here they are being used for informational purposes. No one is suggesting that Wikipedia is a MLB site or that we are selling or trading in MLB materials or properties (maybe we should talk to Jimbo about licensing possibilities for raising donations!). As far as copyright is concerned: I noticed that your images are under 200 pixels (actually the one's I checked were > 100px). These are extremely small thumbnails. Google posts such thumbnails through their image search engine. The use here on Wikipedia is also informational, cultural and historical. I think there is a strong claim for fair use and am suggesting under any fair use analysis there would be no violation, see my proposal [[fr:Utilisateur:Alexei756/Wikip%E9dia:Fair_use_des_images|here]]. I would encourage you to consider leaving them. I know you have a pretty liberal, laisse faire outlook regarding legal issues, so I hope you consider this in relation to future users of Wikipedia, if fair uses are stripped off perhaps the site will be much less appealing to the public and such fair use does not effect GFDL uses of the encyclopedia texts. Alex756 18:14, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment L'Dan, though remember even though IAAL, it's NALO! I took the liberty to add some info about the images on the image description pages, I only found four logos; if there are others feel free to add some note about fair use (also if you have anything to add on the pages that I have made a preliminary attempt on). I also sent an email to the US office of MLB to their domestic licensing person asking if they have a fair use policy (they would never grant GFDL). If I get a response from them I will let you know. If Wikipedia's designated agent gets contacted I am sure we will find out! Alex756 03:18, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Hi Dan, I hope you don't mind but I moved Chad/temp to Talk:Chad/temp because there aren't supposed to be any subpages in the article namespace. Hopefully I fixed all the links to it as well. Angela 04:39, Oct 4, 2003 (UTC)

Hi LD. WHY???? I blocked your new account because it seemed like someone was simply messing around. I don't understand why you have started creating new accounts. IMHO you are a superb user on wikipedia. In fact, I am working on a newspaper article right now on wikipedia and I was going to use you as an example of the sort of people wiki attracts. I have read your message on the w-list. All I have to say is please don't go. Wikipedia needs you. Just forget about using new usernames and focus on what you do so very very well, contributing as LittleDan. Your contributions are way way beyond your age and are a pleasure to read, and I for one would be very sorry if you left, expecially as I don't understand what the row is about in the first place. lol FearÉIREANN 00:26, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Hi LD, of course I still want to mention you. Re-user names, I think it is crucial that usernames are regulated. Wikipedia is a professional encyclopædia. How it is perceived is directly impacted upon by the names users use. People make instant reactions based on what they see before them. How do you imagine someone reading pages on Israel or the Holocaust would react if they saw a major editor of the page was called Gas Jews, how people would react to an article on British politics if one of the major contributors to it was called fuck Blair, how people would perceive an article on Catholicism its major contributor was called Jesus Saves, a phrase associated with Born Again Christians who are generally hostile to Catholicism? Or alternatively, if a user editing the Israel page called themselves Sharon is right? We have to be careful in choosing names so that, perhaps unintentionally, we do not appear as though we are forcing a POV on wiki. There is no point worrying about the NPOV nature of an article if through one stupidly chosen name, all attempts as NPOV are undermined. No professional organisation anywhere would tolerate that. If we take wiki seriously, we have got to take our use of names seriously. It isn't censorship, it is elementary common sense. We don't have an option to do otherwise. The rule should be simple:

1. Avoid names that appear to express a religious or political opinion;
2. Avoid obscenities.
3. Use names that will not cause hurt or offence to anyone else.

Remember, wiki may have a long life. It needs to have names used that will not cause embarrassment today, next week, next month, next year or in ten years time. Wikipedia is a professional encyclopædia, not a game. It has to act with professionalism. It isn't a game where people can make up any name they want no matter how much damage it may do to wikipedia and the work of all of us. Your work, my work and everyone else's deserves not to be undermined by idiots with nutty names. lol FearÉIREANN 20:20, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)

## The illustration on Christianity

Good work!
May I propose improvements?

1. a time scale in the bottom
2. differentiating between the processes (as the Great Schism) and the resulting denominations (the Catholic Church) - the denominations could maybe be italized?

--Ruhrjung 23:57, 16 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Hi LittleDan, when you revert vandalism, can you mention the version to which you have reverted to. This will help others in verifying whether your revert was proper. A comment like "reverted to last edit by xx" would do.

For List of people by name: Mi, you reverted to an edit made by a vandal, so that required some cleaning up which I have done. Jay 07:00, 17 Oct 2003 (UTC)

LittleDan, would you take a moment to correct the misspelling of "separate" on the jpeg chart, on Christianity, please? It is currently spelled, "seperate", which is incorrect. Mkmcconn 05:32, 20 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I see you've been getting some slack on copyrights of images. The most strict interpretation of the letter of copyright law (to which I believe Wikipedia holds) is that you cannot use any images to which you do not personally own the copyright or which are uncopyrighted. The only exceptions to the letter of this law are that a single copy may be made by educators (not copies for the whole class), or for purposes of parody. You can find a simple summary of this information as well as a list of public domain (uncopyrighted) images at this site.

--zandperl 02:10, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)

When I'm acting as a student or an individual, I try and abide by the strictest interpretation of the copyright law to keep myself out of trouble. But when I act as a teacher, I go by the fair use policy and make multiple copies of unpurchased texts for students. I can't expect the students to shell out all the money they'd need to buy them, and I know they won't go and look it up at the library.
--zandperl 03:29, 23 Oct 2003 (UTC)

## Wikipedia:Requests for mediation

Hi. Look what I did! Don't be mad, k? I figured it was better than nothing, and Ed told me to take my problems there, so... let me know what you think? JackLynch 12:45, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

## General Disclaimers

Welcome back Dan! Good to have you around, you often bring an interesting point of view to issues. Regarding the disclaimers notice I really did not have anything to do with placing the disclaimer, though I did write that text months ago and then just suddenly found it being used after I thought several people had suggested it created too much doubt like you are saying. My own thinking was to link to it through a modified Wikipedia:Copyrights page which I called Wikipedia:Copyrights and Warranty Disclaimers (proposal), thus people would have to click onto that page and then onto the disclaimer, it would not be directly linkable from each page. I think Mav organized the current configuration as a way to get individual disclaimers off of pages as there were appearing more and more.

Do you really think that your teachers will just consider Wikipedia some crackpot undertaking because of the disclaimers? If you educate them about Wikipedia they should understand that while it is not "peer reviewed" it has become the repository of a lot of knowledge. All knowledge comes, really, from the same source, a consensus of people, and it is not necessarily known who those people are. Wikipedia is just a microcosm of the process of aggregation of knowledge that has been going on for centuries, if not millenia. — Alex756 17:21, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I'm not sure if there was a debate about placing of the disclaimer notice. On my skin it is at the top and the bottom when viewing a page. I don't know if anyone picked up on the difference between having a direct link or putting it on the Wikipedia:copyrights page. If you want to advocate for that, I will back you up, I think it is a bit more elegant that way (though not really a legal difference, more aesthetic, as you say, we don't want to be too discouraging to people who might want to cite Wikipedia as a source). — Alex756 18:35, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi, do you still need the sidenote examples? They are listed on Wikipedia:Images for deletion. Please comment there if you do not want them deleted. The files are Image:Sidenote.html, Image:Sidenote-window.html and Image:Sidenote-column.html. Angela. 20:54, Jan 25, 2004 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't really remember what the proposal was about. Maybe it would be better to upload them to Meta and start a discussion on it there. Angela. 22:38, Jan 25, 2004 (UTC)

## Request for mediation

Daniel, I am requesting that you (and Ed Poor) act as mediators in the "edit war" over the article on Palestinian views of the peace process. I am unsure if there is a formal process for asking for someone to step in as mediator, so I am just leaving this note on your page. I picked you because (a) you are listed as one of the people on the mediation committee, and (b) your reasonable discussions on the Wiki-En list, on a variety of subjects. RK 21:33, Jan 28, 2004 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I can't be an impartial mediator since I think the article should be merged with one about the conflict as a whole. LDan 17:33, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)
But so do I. The only reason it currently exists as a separate article is that the entire section kept getting vandalized in the original article. In any case, I think you misunderstand the role of a mediator. Your job is not to agree with everything I say. It is to act in good faith in mediating a dispute. If people only picked mediators that agreed with them, then no mediation could occur! It would simply be an edit war, with the winner being the person with the largest number of friends. I am currently trusting that an impartial process will be fair. RK

## rocks and minerals project

Since you've contributed in the rocks and minerals area before, wanted to let you know that I created a WikiProject Rocks and Minerals if you'd like to join. Elf 04:45, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me, I hadn't quite gotten around to it. -- Tim Starling 03:51, Feb 29, 2004 (UTC)

You can discuss the changes on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries -- Tim Starling 03:56, Feb 29, 2004 (UTC)

## Press Release

I see you contributed to the creation of the press release. Might you be willing to follow these steps, and send off the press release? -- user:zanimum

## Selected anniversaries

Hey LDan - Per the Selected anniversaries guidelines, could you please make sure that any event you add to sel anniv pages is both in the selected article (bolded item) and has its exact date linked in that article? All entries should also be in the past tense. Look at today's entry on the Main Page as an example. --mav 03:08, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

We're having trouble tonight with a vandal, see Wikipedia:Block log. Some suspect it is the same user as User:Bird....if you have any way to help us stop this individual, it would be much appreciated. We are in IRC. Kingturtle 08:13, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

## Mediation

Hi. Quick question: are you still involved in the mediation committee? Regards -- sannse (talk) 19:32, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)

## How to get θ in math mode

Here you asked, "How do you do θ in TeX?". The answer is simply \theta. Most greek letters are written like that; capital versions are done as \Theta, for instance. (Results: ${\displaystyle \theta }$ and ${\displaystyle \Theta }$.) There's information on the User's Guide about it. (See "greek letters" under 'Fonts'.) Cheers! Grendelkhan 21:26, 2004 Apr 16 (UTC)

## Armenia coat of arms

Hi Daniel,

Where es the the PD image of Armenia's coa from?

Best regards, --zeno 10:25, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

## Time project

Hi, I've set up a new template for the Wikipedia:WikiProject Time. I'm leaving a note out of courtesy for the participants of Wikipedia:WikiProject Years since it is a descendant of Time. Any suggestions welcome, I haven't got a plan yet for the project. Thanks --FrankP 12:21, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

## Article Licensing

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. Ram-Man (comment) (talk)[[]] 15:31, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

## Unverified images

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 07:25, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

## Unverified images

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{PD-self}} if you wish to release your own work to the public domain, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 22:53, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

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## New Mathematics Wikiportal

I noticed you've done some work on Mathematics articles. I wanted to point out to you the new Mathematics Wikiportal- more specifically, to the Mathematics Collaboration of the Week page. I'm looking for any math-related stubs or non-existant articles that you would like to see on Wikipedia. Additionally, I wondered if you'd be willing to help out on some of the Collaboration of the Week pages.

I encourage you to vote on the current Collaboration of the Week, because I'm very interested in which articles you think need to be written or added to, and because I understand that I cannot do the enormous amount of work required on some of the Math stubs alone. I'm asking for your help, and also your critiques on the way the portal is set up.

Please direct all comments to my user-talk page, the Math Wikiportal talk page, or the Math Collaboration of the Week talk page. Thanks a lot for your support! ral315 02:54, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

## Prothon

I reverted your move of "Prothon" to "Prothon programming language". This is no more because Manual of style says we don't have to put a suffix "programming language" if the name of the language is unambiguous. In this case, I think Prothon means nothing but a programming language. If I missed something, just revert my revert and let me know. -- Taku 03:19, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

You could try reading Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list, it should be described in there. -- Curps 18:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Havent seen you around in a while. Welcome back. Danny 00:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

## Such watch

Sorry to nag, but could you remember to put a few words in the Edit Summary when you make a major change? Saves hassle for others watching the page. ---Isaac R 20:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

## Mary Ramsey

I didnt know they could either. We have plenty of substub articles, which should be expanded, and articles should be written in full sentences, but there has to be some better grounds for deleting them. Danny 10:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

## Islamofascism

Please don't blank and redirect articles currently on VfD. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:03, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Looking at the History, someone else had replaced the VfD tag with a speedy tag, so your mistake was natural. Sorry. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

## Possible impostor

I've been doing some impostor hunting lately, seeing as how we've had a rash of them lately and all, and you got the following hits: Template:User-multi. Of course, this may be nothing, but I thought I would let you know. – ClockworkSoul 04:59, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

## John Milius

hi, noticed you were the original creator of the John Milius article and was wondering if you would weigh in on a little discussion i've been having with another editor regarding possible npov in subsequent edits of that page.

thanks. Seasee 28 June 2005 04:49 (UTC)

== Interested in an L.A.-area Wiki meetup?

==


It appears as though L.A. has never had a Wiki meetup. Would you be interested in attending such an event? If so, checkout User:Eric Shalov/Wikimeetup.

- Eric 29 June 2005 01:31 (UTC)

## WikiProject Years Survey

Hi. To get everybody thinking, I've created a survey about Year pages here. I'm telling all the participants of WikiProject Years and everyone else who has shown an interest or participated in the discussion. If you could check it out it would be appreciated, and tell anyone you think may be interested.Trevor macinnis 02:36, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

## Visual Basic Classic Wikibook

I see you have contributed to the Visual Basic article on Wikipedia. Any chance you would like to join in editing the wikibook: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Visual_Basic_Classic? --Kjwhitefoot 09:58, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

## Image copyright problem with Image:Tenrec.jpeg

Thanks for uploading Image:Tenrec.jpeg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Ricky81682 (talk) 07:18, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Greetings, editor! Your name appears on Wikipedia:List of non-admins with high edit counts. If you have not done so lately, please take a look at that page and check your listing to be sure that following the particulars are correct:

2. If you are currently interested in being considered for adminship, please be sure your name is in bold; if you are opposed to being considered for adminship, please cross out your name (but do not delete it, as it will automatically be re-added in the next page update).
3. Please check to see if you are in the right category for classification by number of edits.

Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! BD2412 T 04:57, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

## Image Tagging for Image:Homs.PNG

Thanks for uploading Image:Homs.PNG. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Image legality questions. 04:26, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

## Compass and straightedge

Please comment. John Reid 16:33, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

## THANK YOU

Hey, I just wanted to say thank you for helping me format the "Long Island Project" page, I do appreciate your help very much. How does it look now?

Also, I'm not sure exactly how to sign... by this is Ezzie... at least that's what I registered as a signature name.

## LIP CORRECTIONS

I think the page performs better with the talents and crews using their external links, rather than Wikified links... at least for the talents sections. This is only because IMDB will update their credits automatically, where Wikipedia is a whole different ballpark. EZZIE 21:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

## LIP SLATED FOR DELETION

One of the trigger happy administrators have red flagged my article about The Long Island Project for deletion. I would ask everyone to go to the page and urge them not to. The subject matter of the film itself is of public interest (dealing with the secession of a mass of land as its own state.) I would ask the entire wikipedia world to vote in its favor. Thank you kindly. EZZIE 17:29, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

## Hello from the Mediation Committee

 Dear Mediators Emeriti: I'm writing to all former/inactive mediators (now called "Mediators Emeriti" to emphasize the ability of any mediator to return at will to active participation on the Committee), to encourage each of you to share your wisdom and experience on the Committee by commenting on requests by new individuals to join the Committee. There are five current requests to join the Mediation Committee: The current Committee respects and appreciates the time you spent on the Committee, and the insight you can provide, and encourages you to take part in these discussions. Additionally, any mediator emeritus who has the time and would like to return to active mediation would be welcomed with great enthusiasm. Yours respectfully, Essjay (Talk • Connect) 02:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC) (I recognize that many of you left the Committee to go on to other responsibilities, particularly Arbitration and the Board, but we still welcome your input on new committee members and encourage your participation. Please don't feel guilty if you cannot participate; we just want to remind everyone that they are welcome to do so.)