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Hi Maclean25, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have enjoyed editing as much as I did so far and decide to stay. Unfamiliar with the features and workings of Wikipedia? Don't fret! Be Bold! Here's some good links for your reference and that'll get you started in no time!

Most Wikipedians would prefer to just work on articles of their own interest. But if you have some free time to spare, here are some open tasks that you may want to help out :

  • RC Patrol - Keeping a lookout for vandalism.
  • Cleanup - Help make unreadable articles readable.
  • Requests - Wanted on WP, but hasn't been created.
  • Merge - Combining duplicate articles into one.
  • Wikiprojects - So many to join, so many to choose from...Take your pick!

Oh yes, don't forget to sign when you write on talk pages, simply type four tildes, like this: ~~~~. This will automatically add your name and the time after your comments. And finally, if you have any questions or doubts, don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Once again, welcome! =)

- Mailer Diablo 11:59, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

FYI: The Wikipedia:Guide to layout suggest putting "references" after "external links".....I just thought you would like to know before you take a nap. WikiDon 06:25, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Geo Storm Article

Thank you for taking a look at my geo storm article. I would like to include more photographs in the "year to year changes" section. I have side front and rear photos for the 1990-1991 GSi, the 1992-1993 Base, and the 1992-1993 GSi, as well as detailed photos of the different spoilers on the two GSi variants. Which of these photos would you recommend using (I don't want to use too many) and what table format would you recommend Evenprime 06:24, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Great work on B.C. riding articles!

I just want to thank you for your great contributions to the B.C. provincial electoral districts pages. They look great! Cheers, DoubleBlue (Talk) 13:58, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

I have a question for you. What is your source for the Demographics data? I have been using Election Prediction Project but the numbers, on at least one article, are slightly different. I think we should use the same source but I don't know which is more accurate. Where did you get your data and from what year is it? Thanks, DoubleBlue (Talk) 20:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Thanks for your speedy reply! I think I like your source: Elections_BC] better and will use that from now on. Cheers! DoubleBlue (Talk) 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Hey Jodi

or is it Ryan? :-) Just to let you know that you can make your life easier by signing and date stamping just by typing four tildes ~~~~ . The wiki automagically changes it to your name and time stamp. By the way, I agree with your comments on your user page that contributors should state their biases. I have been too lazy to make a user page yet but your statement may encourage me to get on with it sooner or later. :-) Cheers, DoubleBlue (Talk) 22:48, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Thanks, I've always wondered about that.maclean25 22:54, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Re: Image help

Sorry, I tagged your image as {{unverified}} since it did not have an image tag. But I did not carefully read your image description when I did that. Therefore, I put a {{GFDL}} instead since I am assuming you created the image specifically for Wikipedia.

Anyway, each image you upload has its own image description page where you give its description, its source, and its copyright situation. The image description page should also have a image copyright tag which quickly gives its copyright status. See Wikipedia:Image use policy for more information.

So feel free to change the image tag on Image:Bulkley Valley-Stikine 2001.png to something else. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 07:17, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Riding articles organisation

Good day. You asked:

  • headings (demographics, geography, history, election results all make sense)
    • good
  • Total votes (Total valid votes or Total votes cast? there is a 33 vote difference which would affect the 100.00% in the next column)
    • I think total votes cast since it could, occasionally, be interesting [1]. Perhaps we can add a stat to the boxes on number of "invalid votes".
  • Voter turnout (currently it is "Registered Voters Who Voted" because it is the easiest stat to get; alt is "% Eligible Voters Who Voted"
    • % of Eligible Voters would be of more interest but Registered Voters Who Voted is fine.
  • Demographics (anyway to alter table to show more detailed stats, like pop in 1991, 1996, 2001, 2005; avg. income (census or election year?), unemployment (year?), or whatever may be relevant.
    • I would like to keep the tables as clean, simple, and easy to read as possible. Perhaps the Demographics table could be expanded, however, as you suggest here, it could be interesting and informative.
  • Election table format (I like them. They are easily digestible and not really overwhelming at all).
    • Thanks. I agree. Some other tables try to do everything or be too pretty and confuse the issue. I have considered bolding or colouring the background of the winner in those tables but I don't think it's at all necessary since the tables should be in order of most to least votes anyway.
  • the images (just something I'm fiddling with, do they make sense?)
    • The images are great! Make sure you add a copyright tag as User:Zzyzx11 outlined above or they will be in danger of being deleted.

Again, great work Maclean! DoubleBlue (Talk) 14:27, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I have asked User:Earl Andrew to comment as well since he has done a lot of work in the federal ridings and may have a fresh view of our work.

The layout is very nice. I love the maps! ( I am currently working on one for Parry Sound-Muskoka, federally. It is a tedious task though, adding up all the polls in a municipality. So far, I have got all of the Parry Sound part done. -- Flag of Canada.svg Earl Andrew - talk 06:30, 25 May 2005 (UTC)


Mac, take a look at the British Columbia Conservative Party article. It says that the BC PC Party became the BCCP in 1991. And, of course, it was the BCCP before the 1940s. They are the same party, under different names, as far as I know. Ground Zero 17:56, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Surrey North

Hello. Your boxes are fine. I just added the chart I did because there will be a by-election coming up, and there will be a spot light on the riding. The same thing was done at Labrador (electoral district). I feel both are acceptable, as my chart shows the progression of the parties, and yours goes into more detail. Cheers! -- Earl Andrew - talk 02:53, 11 July 2005 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for taking care of the Canada-related deletion list. Great job! -- Visviva 06:19, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

  • I like what you are doing with the Deletion Sorting. I am glad to help with the Canadian subjects. --maclean25 06:46, 24 August 2005 (UTC)


That's my suspicion as well. If that's the case she may be in violation of her probation, I don't think it's legal to falsely claim somone is being investigated by the police (an obvious lie since your IP address is not publicly available once you login to wikipedia and since stating the particular's of Marsden's sentence is not libel, let alone criminal harassment). Homey 06:45, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

RE: Peace River area

Jodi, I worked on these articles last night:

Chetwynd, British Columbia
Mackenzie, British Columbia
Tumbler Ridge, British Columbia
W. A. C. Bennett Dam
Williston Lake
  • 1) I would like to ask you to give them the twice over, double check my work?
  • 2) Do you have any nice photos you could add, or take some when you tour the area?

WikiDon 19:54, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Sure, I'll add what I can. These places (except Mackenzie) are on my todo list. Great maps, by the way. --maclean25 03:50, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Chetwynd Website

Jodi, I need your help. I can't get this website to work on my computer:

I have emailed them, they say everything is fine. I re-installed a newer JAVA, Julie said it was that, but I still have the problem. I click on a topic, any topic on the left menu bar, and nothing. Nothing happens.

Maybe you can 1) check it out, and 2) if there is a problem, communicate with them to fix it. Thanks, WikiDon 04:18, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

  • The website is working fine on my computer. I'm using Mozilla 1.7. Try this link to their sitemap. At least you got a response from them. I emailed them twice for a good image of their flag and coat-of-arms, with no reply. --maclean25 04:41, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Chetwynd article

Jodi, I hope your not going to leave this paragraph like this:

  • "In 1997, Chetwynd expanded its boundaries. Its northern border was moved up 210 meters over Ol’ Baldy ridge as part of the British Columbia Community Forests program. Four satellite industrial properties were, also, incorporated into the District. These Also, the industrial properties belonging to Enersul, Pine Valley Mining Corporation, Tembec, Duke Energy, outside Chetwynd were incorporated into the District as satellite properties. This was done for taxation purposes as the industries were heavily impacting Chetwynd’s infrastructure but not paying the taxes for maintenance."

I would have just fixed it, but it had items that I didn't know the answer to. WikiDon 07:06, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

  • I fixed the grammar. I know this deserves an expanded explanation but I just cannot find any sources for it. I just know it because I handled an application to expand one of the properties. I will expand it when I get more info but this is all I know (I got a map of it at the office, too). If your concerned about the "northern border was moved up 210 meters over Ol’ Baldy ridge" phrase, I am going to keep that because I think it is a cute sentence. The "as part of the British Columbia Community Forests program" is not entirely accurate as this expansion pre-dates the program. It was done as part of the British Columbia Community Forests Association before the provincial government signed on. I will re-word this if I can find better words. Please list any concerns you have about the paragraph and article and I will do my best to address them. --maclean25 07:32, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Nightowl.....WikiDon 07:42, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

I nap. maclean25 07:54, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Hudson's Hope, British Columbia

That would be good. I just looked at it again and noticed a contribution by Template:User-multi, looks like a child. I reverted the edit he made. Take a look at his other contribution, Beryl prairie, it either needs to be worked on or deleted in its present state. Hopefully the mayor will be re-elected and you can get a good article. WikiDon 07:39, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Beryl Prairie is a community within the municipal borders of Hudson's Hope. It is several miles north of HH's townsite. It will inevitably be mentioned in the HH article so I'm ok with a deletion or redirect. I saw he also listed "lynx creek, and farryl creek". Indeed, Lynx Creek is another community within the HH's municipal borders, to the east of the townsite. However, Farrel Creek is several miles outside the municipal borders (to the east). --maclean25 00:14, 15 October 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for your contribution to Spoo! I've gone through dozens of different versions of the opening, and to keep up with FA standards the version I've gone with has a more prose-y flow. I'm reverting it for now while I mull over other possibilities in lieu of your change. Thanks so much! (And thanks for your support on the nomination!) --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:02, 10 September 2005 (UTC)


I wasn't attempting to vandalize Jackie Chan Adventures; I just don't know Chinese and my brother always says Sensei is Uncle's name! And you're right: he always throws the cup when he's done. By the way, what's it like in Canada?--HistoricalPisces 17:11, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

  • I did not revert your edit, I reverted's "Mung bean is GOOOOD for you!," edit. Does "Uncle Chan" really say that? My part of Canada is cold and dry right now but I saw the northern lights (those pictures don't do them justice) last night for the second time ever. They are absolutely amazing. --maclean25 19:36, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
  • I don't think he says that (though I know he likes mung beans). In his imitations my brother uses, "Uncle does not know. Does Uncle look like psychic?", "Hi-yaaah!" and "Uncle wants tea!" He also says Uncle complains about his tea being too hot or cold or wrong kind or disgusting. By the way, should I move to Canada? I live in the US right now.--HistoricalPisces 17:12, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Re:Extraordinary Machine/temp

I don't think it should be deleted, as the edit history will become available if it is, and you will not get credit for all the useful edits you made! Also, it could be useful in the future. That's just my opinion, though. Extraordinary Machine 20:29, 22 September 2005 (UTC)


Spoo has just been featured! Thanks for your early support! --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:13, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Yogi tea

Hi, Any suggestions as to content for this? I think the recipe is appropriate for cookbook, but not here, and if I remove that there's not much left. It's not a product I've come across. Dlyons493 Talk 11:31, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

  • I Agree. I will put something together today. --maclean25 19:22, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
    • That's excellent thanks. Personally, I'd redirect the existing Yogi tea to Yogi Tea.

Dlyons493 Talk 21:37, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Northern Rockies Regional District

Howdy! I created this one last night, Northern Rockies Regional District, British Columbia, if you have anything you can/want to add. WikiDon 03:24, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Woodroffe Avenue

Please see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Woodroffe_Avenue. Thank you. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 19:01, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I should have left my comments this morning when there were only two other comments - what a mess this one has turned out to be. I'll probably wait until tomorrow to leave my arguments on that page. Sigh. I get this feeling some people are going to be ticked off with me soon, since I've compiled a list of Ottawa roads that I think deserve to be nominated for deletion; I'll probably do that next week. Mindmatrix 03:22, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Federal ridings

Hello again, Maclean. I agree that a discussion to get a consensus is a good idea, and will contribute to your draft project page next week. You're right that riding names can be confused easily with other geographic names. I have been working on defunct Ontario federal ridings for the past month or so, and have usually been adding "riding" after the name if there is any chance of confusion. I have assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that something like "Sunshine Coast—Nickel Belt" would be easily understood as a riding, unlike "Burnaby", but following your comment, I think that I assume too much, and will start using "riding" after each name. I don't think that bolding the name really works because that is a code that would have to be explained. I did not catch that that meant you were talking about a riding instead of another geographical feature, and I don't think that other readers would either. I think that excessive bolding, in addition to being inconsistent with the Style Manual, creates a cluttered article.

Context can also be used: if we say that "Maskinongé—Scarborough Southwest was abolished when it redistributed into Yellowknife—Essex South and Cape Breton—Lethbridge", then I think it is clear that we're tlking about other electoral districts.

So, does "riding" work as well as "electoral district"? I think that riding is a commonly understood Canadianism that works as a short form for electoral district, but it should probably be wikilinked at the first instance in each article for the benefit of non-Canadian readers. I will start doing that. I agree that "electoral district" is cumbersome, and I think that is why it has been shortened to "riding" in general usage, even if Elections Canada doesn't use it. (The Parliamentary website uses it, though.)

I have also been deleting the dates after the riding names for the same reasons: this is an unexlpained code that adds clutter to the articles. From my work on defunct districts, I understand that those dates refer to the period of existence of the ridings in question, but this code is not explained to the reader. Also, I think that the information about the period of existence of a riding other than the one that is the subject of the article belongs in that riding's article, not here.

I am continuing my work on defunct ridings: I am about half-way through Ontario, and will move on to other provinces when I'm done, but I also want to clean up the current ridings in anticipation of a federal election early next year. Do you have a problem with any of the changes that I made yesterday to BC ridings? I'll hold off on my clean-up work until I hear from you.

Some of the other changes that I've been making:

  • replace MP with Member of Parliament as a better link;
  • replace "NDP" by "New Democratic Party" on the basis that the initialism will only be understood by readers familiar with Canadian politics;
  • break up the opening sentences that read "Abbotsford—Hudson Bay—Musquodoboit is a federal electoral district represented in the Canadian House of Commons,and located in the province of XXX" into separate sentences so that the verb phrase "is located" isn't separated by a long string of text;
  • remove the excessive capitalization in the tables -- "Total Valid Votes" is replaced by "Total valid votes" since there seems to be no reason to capitalize the non-inital words;
  • replace "Pop. Density" by "population density" -- there seemed to be no particular reason for abbreviating the first word; and
  • add in results from older elections that had been omitted in some cases.

This is a huge project, and I am happy to contribute my share. I like you vision of making Wikipeida the most complete source of info on Canadian ridings. I look forward to working wiht you. Ground Zero | t 13:19, 20 October 2005 (UTC)


This was kind of a spontaneous thing. I thought of it earlier today, and when I was talking to Jord about naming issues, I suggested we start up a project. Now then, I will try and incorporate your stuff into the project, but I don't think being an admin will be to my advantage ;-). As for the Woodroffe Ave. thing, I didn't get into that much trouble did I? ;-) There are quite a few issues that have come up in regards to that. We have articles on pretty much all major Ottawa roads, so I feel it perposterous that one of our busiest would be deleted. But, let's not get into this again, me and my Ottawa wiki-buddies will figure something out :-D. -- Earl Andrew - talk 08:08, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Good stuff you have there and I see it has been incorporated to the project page. I don't really see there being any risk of a "bog down discussion on regional-specific issues" if we include provincial districts. In terms of a shell for districts, in my mind, would be pretty common. If anything, there might be some add-ons for some provinces for some reason I am not imagining right now but that should not effect the basic outlines for a page on an electoral district. Have you looked at the work that is being done on Alberta electoral districts by Cloveious? See Calgary Shaw for example. - Jord 13:35, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

There is a good example of where there might be an add on for provincial districts. In Alberta, you might add on the results of Senator-in-waiting elections, in Quebec you might add on Referendum results. - Jord 13:36, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
  • The regional-specific add-ons are good. Perhaps I will change the caveat. The pages I created there are for general discussion. For a specific debate a subpage may be appropriate (it is hard to say what might emerge). Other examples incude, the infobox used in Ontario districts whose provincial/federal boundaries coincide. A sub-page may be created to answer the question 'Are these two seperate electoral districts that require two seperate pages? and what info should be cross-referenced?'. In BC, there there are couple piles more of data from BC Stats on provincial districts that I'd like to put in federal district if it were available from StatsCan. My intent was to keep debate focussed on three main areas: layout, content, and sources/references. I'd like to encourage the beginning of a new subpage or thread or dealing with a specific issues. --maclean25 17:55, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation - I've actually already had a look at it over the past two days, and have had some ideas that may be of interest. I'll present them on the project page. Aside: as far as naming conventions go, do we want to split an article like Vaughan—King—Aurora, or do we leave it as is? Mindmatrix 20:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't think they represent the same area - they just have the same name, and a significant overlap between the provincial and federal ridings. Elections Ontario determines riding names for the province, as far as I know; it essentially performs the provincial equivalent duties to Elections Canada. But there are differences, too: one of the current federal ridings split from Vaughan—King—Aurora is Oak Ridges—Markham, but the provincial equivalent is now Oak Ridges. I'm sure there's a method to the madness, but I'm not privy to it. Mindmatrix 21:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
As I typed that, Ground Zero revised the article, and answered that question - the provincial electoral districts were renamed to match the federal electoral districts. Since then, some federal districts have been redefined. Mindmatrix 21:48, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

WPCUG Contribution

Hello, I appoligize for writing this in your talk space, but I was wondering if you could give me a status update on the WPCUG page that was marked for deletion? Is the decision standing or is there a way that we may appeal it. I've been doing searching on Wikipedia and I have found pages from other user groups.

Thank You

Michael Celotto

Notable Canadians

Personally, I'd probably either kill it or put in a few other subheadings as well; to me, it just kind of seems pointless to only sort one type of article out from the main list like that (when yeah, half the time users just add people articles under the main heading anyway). Bearcat 07:22, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Riding history

I posed a question to you on Wikipedia:WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada/History. Perhaps you could take a look at it when you have a chance. Thanks. Ground Zero | t 15:34, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Image:Mile Zero Post.jpg

...but which end is it? (*grin*) Bearcat 09:34, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

  • HaHa! It is supposed to be the beginning of the Alaska Highway. But the funny thing is that it isn't even on the Alaska Highway, it is in the middle of the intersection of 10 street and 102 Ave, one block away. It exists for tourist photo ops. --maclean25 09:43, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your vote, and HDI discussion underway ...

Hello! I hope you're well. I'd like to thank you for participating in the vote earlier to include the HDI in the country infobox/template.

After a lengthy gestation, a discussion piece has been prepared to help give form to the vote. If you're interested in how and where this information should appear in the infobox, I'd appreciate it if you head on over there and comment. :)

After a decision is arrived at, if at all, I'm also hopeful to prevail upon you to add the values (if you're willing and comfortable) for a handful of countries; the more people doing it, the less time it will take to implement the vote and realise the fruits of our collective labour.

As a segue, I'll also be adding my comments to the relevant Canadian riding/election project pages shortly; stay tuned! :)

Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks again for your co-operation! E Pluribus Anthony 04:03, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for your note. At your behest, I will try to participate more in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada et al.; I have some ideas about this project (previously stated, though not elaborated) and new ones (like a revised infobox). As you may recall, I'm consumed not only by the UN HDI resolution above (which is imminent) but other topics, and I've been spread pretty thin recently.
Again, I will try to contribute. Thanks again for your indulgence and work! E Pluribus Anthony 06:34, 2 December 2005 (UTC)


Well, we do have articles on Ottawa city wards. Look at Alta Vista Ward for an example. As for RDA's, I've been creating the bare stubs for a while now, and there are a few for other districts out there. I feel they are necessary, as they are census subdivisions recognized by StatsCan. I'm not sure how to expand them any further, as I am not a BC native, but would be open to suggestions. Just don't merge them all into one article. -- Earl Andrew - talk 03:34, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

It is no coincidence, that they share borders, as StatsCan defines its CSDs to coinside with the electoral areas. As seperate articles, they work well, because we can divide up a regional district into smaller areas to divide up the information. I'm sure the list of communities alone would make things quite long. Just look at the length of some Nova Scotia county articles, and you will know what I mean. Unfortunately, how they are presently divided remains unclear. I'll have to wait until the next census. -- Earl Andrew - talk 04:20, 6 November 2005 (UTC)


First, thanks for the humorous intro to your message. :-)

Second, I will create a version of the demographics section, as I perceive it should exist, sometime soon. I won't be able to do much until Wednesday at the earliest, though. I'd prefer a slightly broader scope to the section, so I suspect my views differ from yours and Luigi's. I do agree that having examples to view would make selecting data much easier. My example will probably have several tables, and some text describing the data presented.

Third, I will contribute to Geography of British Columbia; I'm one of those people that expects that if someone votes for an article, (s)he should contribute to it. I'll probably start on it next week sometime.

I've really got to stop committing myself to so many things... Mindmatrix 17:30, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Your comments on the Hugo Chavez article

Your recent comments on the Hugo Chavez article in the second peer review are deeply appreciated. I will carefully read them and immediately act upon them. However, I was forced to prematurely shut down that peer review due to the article's current candidature for "Featured Article" status. Please feel free to leave comments and objections at the FAC page, under the Hugo Chavez subheading, from now on. Regards, Saravask 09:46, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

  • I have reviewed the Hugo Chavez article again. I note that some of the issues I raised in the peer review have been dealt with. It certainly is one of Wikipedia's better articles. My remaining concern is about the orientation of the article. Specifically, that it focuses too much on his public life and tells us little about the man. I would like to see the personal life section at the bottom given more prominece and analysis. I'm also concerned about the stability of the article. I note some of it has changed. I'm guessing some of the content has been alternating between the daughter articles and this main one however I never read the other articles so I'm not sure (don't tempt the reader with switching articles half way through - if the reader is interested he will inevitably go there - I didn't get distracted so that is good). Anyways, if the article becomes stable (so I know what I voting for) I will vote soon. --maclean25 09:52, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Shoe polish FAC

Hi Maclean, thanks for your comments on the FAC for shoe polish. Please take another look as I have rejigged the article as per your excellent comments. Proto t c 11:32, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

  • I have reviewed the article again. I note that you have taken care of some objections and improved the article. I will strike/alter my comments accordingly. I will reconsider my voting stance after a few days of stability in the article - so I don't vote for an outdated version. --maclean25 10:53, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
    • Great, thanks. One objection you haven't stricken out is the one about 'why shoe polish comes in little tins' ... I really can't find a specific reason, other than 'it always has' - when it first started to be sold commercially in various forms, during the late 1800s, everything was sold in tins then, as plastic hadn't been invented. Circular tins were easier, as it made it easier to get all the polish out of the tin (no corners), as with all kinds of viscous substances. Small tins were preferred because shoe polish dries out, eventually, when exposed to the air, and it's a low-volume product that you only use a little bit of every time. I don't know whether that's actually relevant enough to put in the article. I would guess that brand recognition led to this remaining the case to this day, but it would only be a guess, and I can't find any references to back it up, so I'm a little leery of putting that in the article. Proto t c 11:34, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
      • Those links are great, I will have a read through them and see what can be extracted. Thanks! Proto t c 12:48, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

A few notes

Hi. First, I'm sure you'e noticed that I've done some copyediting of Dawson Creek. I've left some comments at the peer review too. I didn't edit the whole article, mostly the demographics section - it'll still need a few tweaks. I made one change (settlers -> immigrants) which I'm not sure is accurate, so please check it.

Also, since you were one of two people who seems to have had any interest in re-working the Canadian projects, could you do a quick test to see if it works as you'd expect? It shouldn't take more than a minute or two. I don't want to implement a system that nobody has tested, because I have no way of gauging if its easy to use - I find it easy, but then, I designed it! Just visit my test page. I've made the same request of Zhatt. Thanks... Mindmatrix 20:08, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for doing the peer review on Dawson Creek. About the Canada collaboration, please see the history page of User:Mindmatrix/xi. I had to add the template name to the template info to get it to work. Also the fourth tidle didn't do anything on the main collaboration page. On the style side, I would like to see how switching the 'article link' with the 'article, click to vote' would look. I imagine it being more intuitive to reach up to the top to browse the article, if I want to vote I will read on to see how to vote. --maclean25 05:34, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
I've taken a look at the history. Here's the issue:
{{subst:User:Mindmatrix/beta | pg=Article | reason=Reason for the nomination.| nom=~~~}}
The part before the first pipe links to the template, and shouldn't be changed. The equivalent in the real system would be {{subst:Collaboration template | ... or some such. Since I was trying to dumb it down as much as possible, I implemented automatic signing, so you didn't need to replace the tildes. That's why the fourth one did nothing, since it wasn't being appended to the three others, but rather to your username. Only Article and Reason for the nomination needed to be replaced. This is how it should've looked before saving the page:
{{subst:User:Mindmatrix/beta | pg=xi | reason=Po-tat-oe-s.| nom=~~~}}
Visit the User:Mindmatrix/xi page again, blank the text, and replace it with the line above. Things should be much smoother. I'll update the instructions to be clearer about this; maybe I'll put an example for each step. Mindmatrix 16:31, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Never mind, I found the real problem. You have a custom signature, which is parsed before the fourth tilde is appended. I'll have to re-work that bit. Mindmatrix 02:41, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I've fixed it. Try doing the above now, and everything should work. Mindmatrix 02:58, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Looks great, but two things: (one) I can't get back to the main page after voting or putting up a nomination. I have to hit the back button a few times to go back. (two) I cannot see the article that I'm voting on. The top links at User:Mindmatrix/alpha are the User:Mindmatrix/xi (ie. Canada collaboration/xi) which goes to the voting page and there is nothing in the voting page that goes to the article. --maclean25 04:21, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
If you take a look at the wiki code for each nomination page, you'll see that the headers actually link to the article that was nominated; however, for the test, the nomination page and the article are the same page, so the header simply becomes a bold non-link to avoid a self-referential link. This is also the case in the main page: the header is a link to the article, not the nomination - I suppose I should have designed my test to be a little clearer. In other words, this is only a problem with the test system, and will work properly in the real system.
As far as not getting back to the main collaboration page, I'd rather not add links to it from the nomination pages, because the main page pulls in all those pages, and would thus be littered with numerous links to itself. However, if you notice in the nomination pages, right after the "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" statement at the top is a link to go back up one level. Again, this doesn't work in the test system because I flattened things out a bit, but would work just right in the real system; the only problem is, would most users notice that link? Mindmatrix 15:13, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
  • The statement at the top took me back to "User:Mindmatrix", not the alpha page. I noticed the format is similar to WP:RfA. Perhaps test it with a real article, see what happens. --maclean25 01:42, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
The reason it does that is that gamma, delta etc are not sub-pages of alpha. The nominations would have to be at User:Mindmatrix/alpha/gamma etc for that to work; that's how the real system will be set up. Anyway, I've done a test run using such a sub-page and a real article. This should make everything much clearer - I should've done it this way from the start. (Note that the User:Mindmatrix/alpha will be replaced by Wikipedia:Canada collaboration.) Mindmatrix 02:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Mountfort and friends

I wrote the Benjamin Mountfort article so long ago that I can't remember exactly which references came from where, those reference books were returned to the library long ago. I see the chief quote: " a half-educated architect whose buildings… have given anything but satisfaction, he being evidently deficient in all knowledge of the principles of construction, though a clever draughtsman and a man of some taste." - (the newspaper article regarding his reputation is quoted) is referenced in the external links listed in the article. For you ref here: [2]. This Christchurch City Library site I think can be relied on for authenticity. I do remember an exact newspaper for that quote though and will endevour to find it (if only because it will wake me up in the middle of the night if I don't!)

The second quote (to which I assume you are referring) "...Accordingly, we see in Nature's buildings, the mountains and hills; not regularity of outline but diversity; buttresses, walls and turrets as unlike each other as possible, yet producing a graduation of effect not to be approached by any work, moulded to regularity of outline. The simple study of an oak or an elm tree would suffice to confute the regularity theory." Is from here: Letters to the Governor of New Zealand concerning the designs for the new Government House, Auckland (1856-1857), Colonial Secretary's Notebook, National Archives, Wellington IA1 60/1708. This is also listed in the external links. I suppose the present style of Wikipedia FAs would be to footnote those references, rather than list them as I did as denoted external links - however time and the whims and requirements of Wikipedia FAs change by the day, and I no longer write FAs, as I am only able to write in my own style, and have little inclination to adapt.

Regarding referring to buildings as having an Gothic, Tudor or even (heaven forbid) Brutalist design, that is something that is apparent, I believe if one has to reference the obvious then it's time to give up on the project, the blue links to Gothic, Tudor and Brutalist should confirm basic assumptions.

Please feel free to edit what you like, they may be FAs today but nothing lasts for ever. Giano 22:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

  • In this diff here [3] you assert a hypothesis (advanced by the authours of the reference book I used) regarding a dearth of architects as fact:-
  • an explanation of it could be a dearth of architects (my version)
  • and there was a dearth of available architects (your version)

I think when reporting scantily documented history unlike concrete rocket science, if there is an element of even the slightest doubt, it should be clear in the text. Giano 07:27, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Weasel words

I'm glad you liked the Palladian page I regard it as the first "proper" page I wrote here, although I can now see a lot more that needs to be added and changed. I am very into facts and information probably at the expense of prose and style.

I'm afraid a lot of very silly people coin the term weasel words and attempt to remove them when they are best retained, the only way to evaluate any work of art from a painting to building is to evaluate by comparison with other buildings, and suggest differences or reasons for such a feature. To state something is definitely one thing or another would be to assert one's own opinion. The very term Weasel words, is stupid, and intended to be disparaging as though there is never a reason for using them

Secondly if an article lists references, one has to assume a degree of trust that the author has in fact read them and used them. If every reference was footnoted the page would soon resemble a sodoku square. The references are listed so one can obtain them and check facts, or better still further one's knowledge. I do agree with you that it is better if direct quotes are footnoted, or at least referenced in the text. I see that Robert Lawson which I wrote sometime after Mountfort is quite heavily footnoted, an FA feature which became popular after Mountfort. To explain every architectural term would be boring and a little patronising to the reader, if they are interested they can always click the link, where I think a feature need to be explained as to why it shows certain influences I do explain it i.e from Lawson: "....influences: the nearest style into which it can be categorised is probably Jacobethan" note the "probably" not weasel words but merely because in architecture each architect has a variation on a theme, so rarely is anything definitely anything, even the great Palladian is not a perfect imitation of Palladio's work (as I hope I have explained on the Palladian page)

Where I think an architectural term is not sufficiently covered by Wikipedia, or is an obscure vague style then I hope I do explain why sufficiently i.e: "........the school's many turrets and towers led to the architect Nathaniel Wales describing it in 1890 as "a semi-ecclesiastical building" in the "Domestic Tudor style of medieval architecture". I expect there are terms I should have explained more clearly, but at the end of the day there is only so much one can write and if people are interested that deeply they can always attempt to educate themselves further or ask someone.

What is beginning to concern me about Wikipedia as a project though is that an article can become like a game of Chinese whispers, an eminent authority's hypothesis or view covered by a "perhaps" or "in the view of" attracts the self appointed "Weasel Words Police" (who invariably know nothing at all of the subject) who remove the doubt, resulting in a theory (however creditable or likely to be true) becomes suddenly becoming unassailable hard fact. This is why I shall be continuing to attempt when explaining architecture to allow people to form their own conclusions. For instance a certain building may well be an architects best/worst building, but its not for me to say it, however widely that view is held - so from me it will always be "possibly" or "perhaps" I hope that explains to you what I am trying to do here, and why I am writing no more FAs or anything in such detail again.

I hope you are going to start writing about architecture, there is a real "dearth" of people writing on the subject here. One author here is truly knowledgable on the subject, but apart from inspiring me with suggestions and help every now and again seems to prefer to write on many other subjects instead. I think almost every single architectural form could do with further coverage and information, all is a little superficial, but I suppose that's all an encyclopedia ever is. Giano 09:31, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

  • That's great to hear your interested in town planning. Wikipedia desperately need a comprehensive page on Baroque town planning you know the grid system, with everyone and everything in their place, church at the centre etc. sect. etc. It would be great if you could do it. You would be amazed how many pages could link to it. I did Terra del Sole to start the ball rolling and cut out some unnecessary explanation on another page. You can't imagine how a comprehensive page on the subject of Renaissance and Baroque town would help out in so many other pages. Please consider it, its a real void here. Giano | talk 22:34, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Dawson Creek, British Columbia

Can you please review the images at this Dawson Creek article. I plan to put it up as a FAC soon and would like to avoid any complications. I am specifically concerned with Image:Dawson Creek 1996.jpg. It is an air photo taken 10 years ago by the province. I use them in my mapping software at work but got this copy is from an online GIS application at a provincial ministry website. At my work we bought the licensing rights to use the the photos (about 100 photos) which we manipulate with other data. We give print-outs of these images out for free but it is data we are not allowed to give out. They are georeferenced to the 1:20,000 BCGS map grid. Of course, there is no data attached to this image posted on Wikipedia (it is simply a cut&pasted image of a section of two map sheets). If you know what the appropriate tag is, if it is indeed permitted, please let me know. Also, let me know what the appropriate tag is for Image:DawsonCreek logo.png, a version of the city's logo (other versions have slogans or other wording). And the flag was emailed to me from city hall after emailing them a request to use it on Wikipedia. Thank you in advance for any help you can provide. --maclean25 04:13, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Also, does it matter that it is a Canadian flag and logo? --maclean25
If you're allowed to give out the images for free, are there any restrictions on giving out the images? Are there any explicit or implicit agreements with the recipients of those printouts, such as an expectation that they won't make their own copies of the printouts? Image:Dawson Creek 1996.jpg might qualify for {{CopyrightedFreeUse}}.
As for the logo, logos are almost invariably fair use in an article on whatever is identifed by the logo, as are flags. --Carnildo 22:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Shoe polish

Hi Maclean, just a quick note to say thanks so much for your support in shoe polish becoming a featured article. It's now made it! All the best, Proto t c 09:30, 22 November 2005 (UTC)


Oh sure, election results are relevant, but MPs? No!! that makes no sense. Whatever, your article. I just wanted to add something to it like I did for Riverview (Ottawa). -- Earl Andrew - talk 04:23, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

  • I did not mean any offense by the removal. But I have got the format just how I like it so any non-minor additions make me nervous, especially since it is in the midst of the FAC process. With the city's article I am trying to be as specific as possible and a list of MPs really upped the ante as to what can be included. I saw your edit to the template on the city polls. You have a point that it is too specific, so I added template brackets to the "locale" so that it can be amended in each article to say "city", "village", "neighbourhood", "community" or whathaveyou. --maclean25 05:41, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Links to years and dates.

Hello, good work on the Dawson Creek article, well on its way to becoming featured, judging by the comments. :-) However, you will note that I have unlinked many years, while leaving the links on the complete dates. The only reason for putting square brackets around dates is so that different people's date format preferences work. See: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Date formatting for instructions. Like you, I used to put square brackets around all years thinking it was the right way to do things until I ran across the page on date formatting. Keep up the good work. Cheers. Luigizanasi

  • Thank you for the edits. I never link the years, excessive linking always annoyed me. But in preparation for the FAC I gave in. So you unlink all the years you have to. --maclean25 05:41, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

BC Constituency Pages

Hi; got your note. For the ridings I've done so far (Coast Chilcotin federal, Cariboo, Yale, Yale-Lillooet, Lillooet and Atlin, I copied tables from other constituencies to use as a model. There's user-someone named EarlAndrew who's going to try and generate some maps for me later; I've asked for Coast Chilcotin first, and at least the federal ridings have legal descriptions on-line (BC historical ridings do not; I'm trying to get someone at Elections BC to provide me backfiles). If you'll look at Cariboo (provincial electoral district) you'll see I extrapolate on political-geographic issues, such as concentrations of population; in certain MLA cases - George Matheson Murray, and actually I think more on his wife's page Margaret Lally "Ma" Murray I provide some of the political/personal context as to why the win or loss; or fluctuations in voting popluations etc. Doing the best I can; for now just working on getting the poll-data in place and relying on later editors to provide character/candidate profiles. If there's anything I'm not doing right please let me know - two big things 1) we need a historical constituencies category for BC, and for other province's provincial ridings and 2) is there a template for a preferential ballot? the 1952-53 elections in BC were preferential (W.A.C. Bennett got into power because of STV, then did away with it to keep anyone else from benefitting from it as he had)Skookum1 05:02, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Electoral Districts

Hi, First, congratulations on the Dawson Creek Featured article. On the electoral district template for Langley, looks good except for a few points.

  1. Area is sort of an interesting number. For the Canadian average, just divide Canada's area by 308. However, that average will be skewed and I am not sure it will say much. The large number of small urban ridings will be massively outweighed by the small number of extremely large ridings in the North, with (I suspect) very few ridings close to the average.
  2. Population change does not seem to be available on the 2003 rep order. I did try searching on Stats Can's web site to no avail. Theoretically, we could get the full profile for each riding from Stats Canada, but they charge $350 for set-up plus $35 for each additional profile (or something like that). Anyway, it would amount to a few thousand dollars for the whole thing. Maybe we could use the 1996 rep order pop change???
  3. I am also not sure what information the participation rate adds. Unemployment rate is clearly relevant, but the participation rate is mostly related to the number of retirees, which is already captured by the number of people over 60. (or discouraged workers, but that is correlated with a high unmeployment rate)
  4. We can't easily get the incidence (note spelling) of low income, so we probably should drop it. The average income number does give an indication of this, in any case.
  5. I still like including language, ethnicity and immigration numbers. I think they are directly related to voting patterns outside Atlantic Canada. Francophones outside Quebec tend to vote Liberal or NDP, immigrants tend to vote Liberal (hence, for example the results in the St-Léonard—Anjou east end Montreal riding), while I think visible minorities and aboriginal peoples are a factor in explaining Liberal and NDP votes across the country.

Luigizanasi 08:01, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Long overdue...

For your exceedingly helpful peer review (and the only one that even bothered to peer review) of FairTax, I award you much WikiThanks! Please accept it as a token of my gratitude.


Trevdna 15:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

OK, there has been much work done on the article (FairTax). However, I realize that it is still highly lacking as it stands. Would you mind going back over the article and offering any other improvements you can see?

Also, please take a look at the to-do list - is it complete, while at the same time concise enough to be useful? Did I write down your concerns (from the peer review) down well enough, or did somethings get lost in transcription? Are any things on the list already done, or unnessicary?

You can respond below, on my talk page, or on the article talk page - the response will be looked at in any of those places. (It would be most helpful if you answered in bullet form, so it can go easily to the to-do list.)

This would be a really great help to me, and to the article. I know it might seem like it is asking a lot, but you are the only one who who has shown that they can take a good objective look at this article and point out inconsistencies, who is not working on the article (and therefore is not clouded by their own biases from working on the article). Thank you very much. --Trevdna 06:40, 27 December 2005 (UTC)


I noticed that Dawson Creek reached Featured Article status. Well done! Mindmatrix 16:47, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Mindmatrix scam adminship

As fellow residents of this land, I feel it is my duty to employ my newly-granted priviliges to ensure that this politically unstable land may one day achieve a level of stability and functional governance that we all desire. To that end, please use the attached funds with the strictest confidence to accomplish this goal. (Yes, you're right, functional governance and Canadian politics is an oxymoron.) Thank you for your support. Mindmatrix 21:19, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

reply on my Talk page

Hi; working on a hangover but answered your comments on my Talk page.Skookum1 22:37, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

White's tree frog

Thanks for your edits to White's tree frog. Most of them I liked, however I had a problem with your edits to Conservation Status. It made it sound more general to Australian frogs, and not specifically this species. I reverted that section, and fixed it up to sound a little less ambiguous. --liquidGhoul 06:57, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Rightio, I hadn't realised. I will try and reword it now. Thanks --liquidGhoul 08:51, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Joan of Arc

Thank you very much for your feedback at peer review. Would you take a look at two branching articles that address several of your comments? We followed the example of the French Wikipedia last month and created Joan of Arc in art and Joan of Arc bibliography. Durova 18:18, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Indigenous people of the Americas

You said: "All arguments (except your racist comment) are based on Wikipedia policy concerning lists." Well, I don't know any Wikipedia policy that supports deleting perfectly encyclopedic lists based on ethnicity of people that are listed therein. But yet, some such lists are kept and other are deleted. There are many names for that phenomenon: "systemic bias", "Wikipedia is inconsistent", "POV" and so on. I prefer to call it "racism".  Grue  19:57, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Election Candidates

Thanks, I will take a close look at the discussion in Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Legislative candidates, because I agree that there has to be a comprehensive solution. Skeezix1000 15:11, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grant Neufeld

Blind statements of not understanding are not useful counter-arguments.

Blind, content-free accusations -- which are what you originally posted --- are not useful arguments, either. And it's really really hard to make a counter-argument when there was no argument to begin with, so be careful with your unearned snark lest you injure yourself.
I'll take a look, but so far I'm not hopeful, since as far as I'm concerned, Neufeld's industrial-strength vanity should have been bounced a long time ago, no matter what Sollog-level rationalisation he gins up to excuse promoting himself. --Calton | Talk 07:04, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
I guess I do have to use smaller words: So, in case you genuinely don't understand, and not just playing dumb is an insult, pure and simple. You gave no reason, just an assertion, and called on it, you retreated behind an insult and blamed me for your failure to be even minmally clear. I was being oblique to avoid insulting you direct, so perhaps it's my fault: so, you're a bad and dishonest writer who blames his communication failures on the reader instead of where it belongs, on yourself. Clear?

So, to recap:

  • You originally gave no clear reasons.
  • Challenged, you insulted me for not readiong your mind.
  • The reasons you eventually provided were bogus, being:
    • Circular ("Rinse, lather, repeat")
    • Irrelevant (the stamping off and the other articles-are-just-as-bad-but-he-didn't-nominate-them)

Between your bogus reasoning, insults, and disengenousness, I'd say you've earned the Bad-Faith crown. Congratulations. --Calton | Talk 08:36, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Wow, you just don't stop do you? First, you have low threshold for insults, you will get burned many times with this. Secondly, I did not blame you for not understanding, but rather for refusing to understand. As I said previously, "I don't expect you to suscribe to [my point-of-view] but if you are going to challenge it I expect you to try to understand it." You do not have to read my mind, just my comments. No matter how many times you call it a circular argument does not make it true. The "other articles-are-just-as-bad-but-he-didn't-nominate-them" was from this afd as stated here as outlined here, and as I agreed with you has nothing to do with this subject afd. "stamping off"?....but I'm letting you have last word! Please see Wikipedia:Don't be a dick and try to be more calm when replying to comments. --maclean25 08:58, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Chetwynd, British Columbia

I would really like to use Image:Chetwynd BC Road Network.JPG in the Chetwynd article. Was it that I was using the wrong tag or is just not permitted. What about the unaltered version straight from the (the pdf tourist magazine)? Is there a tag that would allow me to use that? Also, I think that BC and Canada are the same for copyrights. At my work we have a license to use the geo-referenced data on these airphotos, but we can do what we please with the images (give them away, publish them - once we publish an agenda they are public property, etc.). maclean25 16:36, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't know if Image:Chetwynd BC Road Network.JPG is different and "derived" enough that you can call it your own work? If so, you need to at least credit the source (which you did). As for the license tag, see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for detailed explanations and I recommend asking on the talk page there. I'm not sure which one applies in this case. Maybe you ought to check out Wikipedia:Copyrights#Using_copyrighted_work_from_others and ask the Northern Rockies Alaska Highway Tourism Association for permission to use (with your modifications), under Wikipedia terms (GFDL). Since their in the business of promoting tourism, I don't see why not they wouldn't agree? That would clear up any ambiguities and doubts. Personally, I tend to be a stickler, when it comes to copyright issues and if I'm ever in doubt, I won't use it. Again, I recommend getting more than my opinion.
As for the air photos, I don't know for sure. All I know is that Canadian data is still copyrighted (even if they allow it to be given away for free). It's not public domain, like US government data is. I think this is a gray area, and need further opinions from others more expert about Canadian copyrights. If you upload something that is "derived" from the data, then I think it's okay. In your case, is it considered derived? I don't know. Myself, I'd like to know, as I am considering using the DEM data from geogratis and making maps for some of the Canadian Rockies parks. In that case, I'd be deriving hillshading, combining with other data (roads, ...), and doing other cartographic design work that would make the maps for sure, a derived product and okay.
Sorry, I don't have more of a definitive answer for you. I think it would benefit us all to get more answers to these questions and maybe clarify the Wikipedia:Copyrights guidelines, to include issues relating to spatial data and Canadian copyright. ---Aude 17:14, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
I just copied the discussion to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Chetwynd, British Columbia, to help keep it together. ---Aude 17:26, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Canadian wikipedians' notice board

Truthfully, I've only been pruning old AfD discussions as I find them - I rarely add new ones, since I don't hang out on AfD (now that I'm an admin, though, I do try to resolve a few dozen weekly). I'll keep doing this, and adding stubs and categories that come up for deletion. I agree that its a good draw for a number of contributors, so perhaps we should find some of these contributors that are willing to update the list. Mindmatrix 20:00, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Michigan State University FAC


Thanks so much for your help on the Michigan State University Peer review. I just put the revised article up as a featured article candidate. Please let me know what you think. Lovelac7 20:43, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Dropping By

Hey; popped by while looking at the registry of Electoral Wiki'ers; see you're in the Peace River area which I didn't realize about you before.....if you want some entertainment on those cold subArctic nights, your local library will have The Newspapering Murrays by Georgina Keddell (the Murrays' daughter); I think you'll enjoy the chapters on the early days of Ft St John in there.....Skookum1 09:29, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Claridge Homes

I've protected the page against re-creation. Thanks for pointing it out. Mindmatrix 17:03, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

arial photo

Unless the photographer explicitly said that you can use it for any purpose, then it's all rights reserved by default. I don't think there's a justification for using this photo on the page that it was on, I think you should flag it for deletion. If you live near the town in question, perhaps you can find a local amateur pilots club and find someone to take a substitute free image the next time they are passing overhead. Good luck with the article, on casual inspection it looks close to feature status to me. Matt 13:13, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Category:Amateur Radio Operator

please see the talk page on Talk:Amateur radio regarding identifying amateur radio users.

People's Republic of Kerala

"And why no mention of the University of Kerala?" — Template:Vandal

Hi. I hope you're not offended by my late response. I tried to implement your suggestions; however, I'm not sure that namedropping one university's name (Kerala University) is appropriate here, notwithstanding a more thematic discussion of education. In all the "place" articles I've seen, I've not seen one with an "Education" section. Nonetheless, thanks for your critique and pointers to sources. Saravask 04:08, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Gerrymandering Review

" Today gerrymandering is not a major issue in Canada." Yikes. Is that ever wrong; and I'm not just thinking about Gracie's Finger (which I've been trying to find or make a map of ). Guess I'll be around for the review process if I'm wanted. Have to do some digging for further examples; but I submit boundary revisions in the Kootenays and Vancouver Island and suburban Vancouver to be constantly political in nature, despite the neutrality of the respective Elections (BC/Can) organizations.Skookum1 08:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

3D Monster Maze

Thank you very much for your help! An answer awaits you at Wikipedia:Peer review/3D Monster Maze/archive2. --BACbKA 12:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Lindsay Lohan

You wrote:

  • Comment, please explain the reference: "born Lindsay Dee Lohan[1]". --maclean25 03:10, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

By any chance, would you happen to know why that reference/footnote no longer works? RadioKirk talk to me 03:37, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

  • I found the odd note in the code when I was trying to figure out why it was broken which made me pose that question in the FAC. I was not able to figure out why it is not linking to the reference section. --maclean25 04:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
It appears it's been intentionally nuked by an admin. I tried removing the ref altogether, only to find the next one, bumped to the top, didn't work anymore. I don't see any other alternative. RadioKirk talk to me 04:59, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Lindsay Lohan

I have a bunch of small concerns about the Lindsay Lohan article. Where would be the best place to list them? the FAC page, Peer Review page, article talk page, or here on your talk page? --maclean25 06:00, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Anywhere's good. If you'd prefer my talk page to avoid cluttering up the nom page, that's fine. :) RadioKirk talk to me 13:52, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello again! I believe everyone's concerns have been addressed. Please feel free to revisit. RadioKirk talk to me 18:27, 28 January 2006 (UTC) Got your list, I'll go over it, thanks. RadioKirk talk to me 22:09, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

  • "While still working as a successful actress..." why is the word "successful" there? it is a peacock term. Actually, I personally do not think that entire sentence is poorly crafted. Understand the purpose of the sentence is to indicate that she made a transition from film to music while she was a popular actress. Try saying that in a more matter-of-fact way, like after releasing movie x and x months of premotions she began working on a pop album in Month 200x. She released the album, Speak, in 2004 and after a period of promotions/concerts/projects she began working on her second pop album, Album x, which was released in 2005.
Simultaneous, though, not a transition—and, I felt the lead-in sentences established "successful" as fact. Fixed, nevertheless.
Deleted one, minor change to another. The only serious issue was verb use.
  • Back up (or elaborate) the statement: "...involved in charity projects such as The Carol M. Baldwin Breast Cancer Foundation, Save the Children, The United Cerebral Palsy Association, and her own charity organization, Dream Come True." - this is an important point to make but the use of the word "involved" is so ambiguous that it renders the entire sentence meaningless.
  • "financially comfortable from the start;" what does the start refer to?
"Lohan's family was financially comfortable from the start"—start of the family. Self-explanatory, I believe; no change.
  • " Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen. URL accessed on 19 August 2004." - the url does not show the article. Please re-format the reference as a proper magazine article reference, not a web reference.
Hm... I'll keep an eye on that. It worked two days ago... Edit: Fixed.
  • "Dina's attorney said she "and the children..." is a misplaced modifier (I think). It reads like the "she" is referring to the attorney, when it is actually supposed to be referring to the mother.
  • "he was sent back to prison for unlicensed driving and attempted assault" - please be more matter-of-fact, just say something along the lines of he was convicted of x and x. I believe the source says something about being intoxicated.
The intoxication was not part of the guilty plea. Nevertheless, this is prose, not a news report, so I'm leaving it intact, with respect.
  • "give up if she didn't get the job. and many..." - do not use contractions in articles.
  • "...taking 'shy violet' lessons..." ( why is there quote marks around shy violet? they do not appear in the source. If you want to add emphasis, then say "emphasis added" at the end of the quotation.
Argh, another case of the best source being slightly different than the one I found when I first wrote it [grin]. Fixed.
  • "Lohan was so well known that her friend" - more peacock terms. Do not tell the reader this, let the reader come to the conclusion that she is so well known. Just say Lohan appeared on the show, etc.
Fixed. RadioKirk talk to me 22:49, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for removing the objection! Let me answer your newest concerns:

  • "financially comfortable from the start;" this is ambiguous, please be more specific, "start" of what? start of Lindsay's life?
Objection, your honor, question asked and answered [grin]. Seriously, see above.
  • I'm still uncomfortable with the "time and money to charity projects". This really should be referenced. It is just too ambiguous and should not be emulated in other articles. money? what $100 or $10,000? time? what one afternoon or every afternoon for 3 months? I hope you can see how this can be manipulated.
One can only work with what's available. I feel the information is encyclopedic and valid, but even news stories that specify her involvement in some more recent things, like tsunami assistance, don't provide specifics. I'll keep an eye open but, for now, no can do.
  • With respect to the acting sections: there are five quotes from critics describing how good Lohan is and only one negative. There is also one neutral quote, let's go with more of the neutral ones that describe her abilities.
I tried to find good, brief quotes that represented the consensus for each project; the structure is, in fact, intentional, presenting a "she was good in that film so she got this film afterwards" narrative.
  • Reference the Vanity Fair article ("Vanity Fair released an interview in which Lohan admitted using drugs "a little"" + image of cover is used). --maclean25 00:49, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Last I checked, the actual Vanity Fair article has not been published on the Internet. The Reuters story referencing the article is the best until then (and VF provided the cover shot that was then distributed by the Associated Press).
Hope this answers everything for now. :) RadioKirk talk to me 01:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Bulbasaur

Please see my response ;). Thanks! --Celestianpower háblame 11:16, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

  • I re-reviewed the article here. --maclean25 03:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Coquitlam, British Columbia

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Patriots FA

Thanks for the feedback/criticism of the Patriots article; I will get on those ASAP. Deckiller 20:03, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for all the help during the FA process. I look forward to increasing the quality of the Patriots' article and hopefully see it on the front page one day. Deckiller 19:45, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


Thank you very much for voicing your criticism at its FAC. I have worked into the article all of your prcise suggestions but wondered if you might help me out with some of the others. This is what I've done so far.

  1. What more do you need to know about it in the real world? It notes who created it and when.
  2. As to why the anime and video games are longer: they are more popular and widely available. Plus, there is more to write about them. What more do you write about a small peice of card worth about a dime?

Regards, --Celestianpower háblame 21:07, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

  • I note that the small concerns have been rectified, however, in my mind having this article get a re-thinking is best for it (organization-wise and content-wise). To address your questions:
1. How about a bibliography like this: Krazy Kat#Eclipse Comics editions? Is "Cultural impact" or "Merchandise" too much? It was my impression that Pokemon was a huge popular cultural phenomenon, yet according to this article, there have been asolutely no analysis of its characters and Bulbasaur has only ever been mention twice in the media. No non-promotional books with independent analysis?
2. I don’t think that justifies inclusion into the article. That sounds like writing for the sake of writing. As for the cards, I really thought the fantasy card games were a big part of Pokemon. --maclean25 03:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Western Front (World War I)

I have taken an interest in your FAC nomination of this article. I am doing edits and facts checks one section at a time. One problem I have is that I cannot find anything (except Wikipedia articles/mirrors) on the paragraph on the April 1915 Battle of Hulluch. Please provide a reference that proves this battle and the events described happened.

Thanks. Sorry, somebody snook that one in on me. It looks like a factual error. The 16th (Irish) Division[4][5] didn't even get to France until the end of 1915. The Battle of Hulluch page gives a date of April 27-29, 1916—a year later. I think that last sentence in the paragraph can be safely removed. — RJH 16:28, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay it's gone now. Thanks again. — RJH 16:30, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
In the 1916 section, I could not find anything on "escadrilles de chase" and a google search comes up with Wikipedia articles only. Can a reference for this phrase be found?

I believe it should be escadrons de chasse. Thanks. — RJH 22:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

At Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Western Front (World War I) you said that the "semi-chaotic edit/review process is a tad discouraging."

Hi again. If you look at the history for the page, there have been at least a half dozen people in there making changes. All within the span of a few days. So I was just venting a little frustration, that may also have been the indirect fault of the very flaky database behavior that day. Sorry, no offense was intended.

I agree that the one objector listed a couple of points that needed clearing up. But some of the other bullets were in the nature of personal style issues. I don't think a page can really make everybody happy at the same time, so those I tend to give less weight.

No matter. If it fails then at least the page has had a better looking over. Thanks. — RJH 15:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)


The correct way to write verbatim &nbsp; at the moment is to use the &amp; HTML entity to escape the initial &. I agree that the nowiki tag should have done it for you :-) If confused, look at the source (by trying to edit this section)... --BACbKA 18:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks, I would have never guessed that combination of letters and symbols. --maclean25 19:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)


Hi, I noticed that after I addressed ur objection to the excess wikilinking of dates, you had struck out ur opposition, then found you've changed ur mind again. I'm confused. I have made sure that excess linking hasn't occurred and only the most important dates/years are linked and that too not more than once. If you are talking about this edit the explanation is that the said years have already been highlighted in the first instances and years 1947, 1965, 1971, 1972 are very vital in the subcontinent history given the wars and its aftermath during these vital years. Oct 13 has also been wikilinked in the first para. I hope you can understand, for this is a minor issue. :) Idleguy 05:01, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

  • I saw you indicated that it was fixed but I checked and it was not. So I corrected the dates myself and struck the objection. Then I saw my corrections were reverted so I revert the strike-out. Please review this section of the Manual of Style: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Usage of links for date preferences. It is not a matter of wikifying the first instance, but rather triggering the date preferences feature. All full dates should be wikified like 20 February 2006. Individual years should not, not even the first instance (unless there is particular relevance in the context - eg. I was born in 1979not particularly relevant. The world changed in 1979relevant context.) --maclean25 06:14, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Ok, that has also been corrected now. I had misinterpreted that policy and so this confusion. However, please understand that the standalone years, 1947 (independence and partion of the two nations) and 1971 (major war and independence of East Pakistan and further turmoil), were turning points and historically vital years in the subcontinent's history and therefore as per MOS "they will clearly help the reader to understand the topic." Hope that is satisfactory in the current version. Please feel free to make any further changes. Tx :) Idleguy 07:06, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Bangalore FAC

Jodi, thanks for the links! I have referenced them in the Bangalore article. AreJay 05:20, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Is Punk'd "irrelevant"?

I'm in the middle of a dispute with backburner001 over the Punk'd reference at Lindsay Lohan. This user says it's irrelevant. I laid out the case for its relevance—with a rewrite for clarity—and he deleted it again. His response: "I did my part – I removed content I felt was not significant and I made suggestions for improvement when I was asked for them. If you are interested in working together to fix this problem, do your part and improve the Punk’d reference or give me a legitimate reason for keeping the reference that was in there before." (Essentially, "You think it should stay? Prove it to me and me alone," which sounds awfully close to self-appointed WikiGodhood, but I've been called dramatic already. More on point, "working together" to this editor means he deletes it, but someone else has to "fix" it.) This user's page includes as a goal, "[r]emove irrelevant/trivial content", but a quick look at his edit history is telling: on 30 January, he removed from WP:MOS a "reference to naming conventions for Mormonism"; on 19 February, he deleted "2 paragraphs" from Hiram College "to keep concise". Since then, every deletion of material has been a Punk'd reference, from Lindsay Lohan, Avril Lavigne, Jena Malone, Beyoncé Knowles, Mandy Moore, Chris Klein (actor) and Proof (rapper). After we blasted each other's antagonism (real or imagined), I threatened him with a WP:3RR war and mutual blocking, and backburner001 then agreed to stop removing the reference pending the discussion that results from my Request for Comment. No matter the outcome, your input would be very much appreciated. RadioKirk talk to me 21:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Isambard Kingdom Brunel

I've actioned your comments (for the better I must admit, thx!) - any chance of a support? --PopUpPirate 00:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

re: Glacier retreat

You are more than welcome to post questions to me in my talk page, but it may be best to do so in the discussion page of the article. I started the article but have been more of a researcher and editor than as anything approximating an expert, so specific questions about the content from a scientific basis may be best addressed by User:Peltoms. User:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters is to credited with the creation of the Glacier mass balance article. If you want to continue to post to my usertalk I can simply address your questions there.--MONGO 03:22, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias

Thanks for letting me know about this project. I'll look into it when I get the chance. Regards, --Jayzel 15:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

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Hi, Maclean, it was nice to see your positive response to my input on FAC. An example of an article using both "Notes" and "References" sections is indeed worth a thousand words of description of the system, you're right. The trouble is I've only recently started using the new <ref> </ref> system myself, but you can see the two-section system the way a reader sees it in The Country Wife, where I use the old ref/note thing. See the advantage of keeping the references alphabetical? It means they're easy to find. In Restoration spectacular, you can see the system used with only a very few notes and the rest of the inlined references simply and briefly in parenthesis in the text (and of course fully referenced in the "References" section); that's my favorite system, really, but for The Country Wife, or for your article, the parentheses would probably be so many as to weigh down the text even more than note numbers do.

The only place I can think of where you can see it with the <ref> </ref> system is my sandbox article User:Bishonen/Andrées luftfärd. The article is an utter mess, but the footnotes and references sections are actually in good shape, so that might be a useful place to look, now I think about it. Best, Bishonen | ノート 03:35, 5 March 2006 (UTC).

You see "what's going on"? Excuse me? What is going on, according to you? I'm sorry I "annoyed" you with my oppose vote, another time I'll check the chrystal ball first to see how your library business stands. My advice above probably annoyed you some more, please feel free to remove it from your page, and thank you for assuming I have nefarious motives for spending time on your article. I have no idea what those motives are — watching you squirm? I'm supposed to hate you? I'm in some sort of alliance with Worldtraveller? What? Never mind, I won't bother you again, I can think of plenty of better ways of spending my wikitime than coping with this kind of suspiciousness. And, seriously, has it occurred to you that people who were doing some sort of plotting or coordinating of efforts (oh, wait, perhaps because they're anti-Canadian?) would doubtless use e-mail for it? Bishonen | ノート 07:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC).

What gets lost

In all the acrimony and curmudgeon-ism, what gets lost is what I have neglected to say. The Chetwynd article is very well done. It contains a great deal of information, and the writing is generally good. I do object to the telescoping in it to make it an FAC, but I realized that I hadn't offered the well-earned compliment on the good research and good work. Geogre 13:43, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the responses; they make my inline queries sound rather ill-considered. As for the light copyediting, I'm always glad to help to those who spend their time helping others. Saravask 00:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I have a question: is "Chetwynd" pronounced as in "jet" and "wind" ("jet-wind")? Also, what is the adjective for Chetwynd residents - is it "Chetwyndians"? This will help me w/ my edits. Thanks. Saravask 00:46, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it's just me today, but after looking over this diff for ten minutes, I can't figure out what was done. Before I make comments, could you enlighten me as to what your plan for the "Culture" section is? It also appears as if entire swathes of text have simply disappeared. Thanks. Saravask 00:39, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Oops; thanks the explanation. I didn't mean to sound so rude. You're doing a great job so far, and plz do not hesitate to revert any of my changes, especially if you believe they are perverting your original/intended meaning (or if they're just making things worse insofar as the satiation of objections is concerned). Saravask 02:39, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

AFD tracking

Sorry about not linking the deleted articles. I'll try to remember to do that in future. —GrantNeufeld 21:53, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Peer Review: History of Puerto Rico

Thank you for commenting on the peer review for history of Puerto Rico. I have implemented your suggestions. Please tell me what you think now that I have made the changes. Joelito 17:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

  • I have made further comments on the peer review page. -maclean25 20:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Thank you again, especially for going into details and checking everything. I have corrected all errors. Do you think the article is ready for FA? Joelito 21:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
      • It is a worthy candidate. I cannot find anything that would stand out as an objection but it will be reviewed by others with very different standards and interpretations of the featured article criteria. --maclean25 22:22, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

BC locator maps

Ref: I uploaded the template (blank map) here: Regional Districts-BC.png, and the ones with highlighted regions here: Regional Districts of BC. They are (un)licenced under Public domain, so no-one has to worry about source quoting or licence of modified maps, and they're on wiki commons, so they can be used in other language wiki's. If there's any impovement you think I could make, just let me know. Qyd (talk)22:12, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

PR of Portuguese Communist Party

Thanks for your comments on the peer review. Sorry for only answering today. I'll shrink the history section, it really needs that. I'll start doing that when I finish my work in the List of Portuguese municipalities, which is also being reviewed. Thanks again. Afonso Silva 10:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Hudson's Hope, BC map

What you posted at Wikipedia:Successful requests for permission looks fine with me. Nice job with the article too. If you wish, you can also forward the e-mail message to permissions at wikimedia dot org, in case anyone questions it. --Aude (talk | contribs) 23:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Canada's history

Hi Maclean25, the section looks much better as it flows rather than being a series of disjoint sentences. I've made a couple small changes. And I know that while the summary style discourages subsections, I think given the length of the section they aid the reader considerably; I would rather keep the subsections rather than give in to the FAC guidelines (I believe the guidelines and not necessary). Also it's great that you've added some references. I kind of felt alone in the need to get references for this page, and only E Pluribus Anthony helped out finding references, but some of the ones he signed up for are still incomplete. -- Jeff3000 14:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Retreat of glaciers since 1850

I sincerely appreciate all the time you spent identifing areas needing improvement in the Retreat of glaciers since 1850 (formerly known as Glacier retreat). You're a dedicated Wikipedian with an eye towards doing what we are supposed to be doing here...writing an enccyclopedia. I made the corrections you mentioned and appreciate you bringing them to our attention. Thanks again!--MONGO 21:29, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Coordinates in location pages

re: coordinates (Hudson's Hope): when I added the {{coorheader}} template, it placed discrete coordinates in the upper right corner of the page (for example: German article). In the meantime, they changed the template to place the coordinates under the article title, and I think it looks awful (actualy they moved to another template name too). Now this is a widely used template in the portuguese and german wikis, but met a lot of opposition on the english one. I hope they change it back soon (as it is now it doesn't help at all, it looses the initial purpose and ellegance). Qyd(talk)18:20, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for comments

Thanks for your comments in Kolkata peer review. The things you pointed out have been taken care of. Please suggest any other changes you think appropriate for the article. Thanks a lot. Bye !--Dwaipayanc 20:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

List of Northwest Territories capitals/temp

You could put a {{db-author}} on the page. LambiamTalk 11:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Alright, thanks. I added the speedy del tag to it. --maclean25 15:54, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Canadian collaboration changes?

Please read/comment at Wikipedia_talk:Canada_collaboration#Overhauling and re-evaluating the CC, thank You. N.B. Maybe You'd consider archiving Your long discussion page? feydey 10:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


Just thought I'd let you know: someone is reopening the "minor candidates" debate.

CJCurrie 05:41, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Thank you for the notice. I made some comments at the afd pages. --maclean25 08:37, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Basho's route

I cracked open my copy of Matsuo Basho and found a route map right inside. The longest trip is the 1689 "Journey to the Deep North", which runs from Ogaki to Lake Biwa to Tsuruga, Fukui, Yamanaka, Kanazawa, Ichiburi, Kashiwazaki, Niigata, Murakami, Sakata, Kisagata, turn around and back to Sakata, Obanazawa, Hiraizumi, Ishinomaki, Matsushima, Sendai, Iizuka, Shirakawa, Nasu, Nikko, Kanuma, and finally Edo. The actual route is more complicated than this, if you'd like to send me an e-mail in the next few days I can send you a picture. Ashibaka tock 19:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


Hi Jodi, we met on Talk:Blue Whale. Unfortunately I feel obliged to let you know about Wikipedia talk:Featured articles#A delisting. I'd like to see Chetwynd stay as a FA, so if there's something I can do to help.... Pcb21 Pete 18:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Yah, I noticed that. When worldtraveller elaborates I would appreciate the help. His objections at the FAC were that it was too long with too many footnotes and turgid writing. Apparently, subsequent edits were not to his liking. --maclean25 06:25, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

AFD closures

Non-admins can close AFDs that do not result in delete. Kotepho 08:36, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, this has been true historically for some time too. --HappyCamper 08:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I see this now at Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-Administrators closing discussions. I totally missed that. --maclean25 08:43, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
No problem. Have a good night. =) Kotepho 08:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Did you have a particular problem with my closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Engineering Undergraduate Society of the University of British Columbia (2nd Nomination) other than me not being an admin? Kotepho
I reverted myself there. I guess I just went to bed too early last night. --maclean25 16:21, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Ike Altgens

Yours was the second significant suggestion toward improving this article, and you nailed it. Received the book today, self-nom'ed for Featured article status today, and I thank you profusely today. :) RadioKirk talk to me 05:38, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Canada history

BTW, just wanted to tell you I copied your Canadian History suggestion into the Canada page. -- Jeff3000 04:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Relatedly, thanks for your prior note. I'm on an extended wikibreak of sorts, which should mitigate shortly; I'll make necessary edits to the version J3000 has placed. Merci! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 04:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair use images

Hi there, I just noticed that User:Maclean25/sandbox contains fair use images. Wikipedia's fair use policy states that fair use images cannot be used in the user namespace. I'd appreciate if you'd remove them.

The images concerned are:

Thanks! Stifle (talk) 19:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Natasha Demkina article

Hi Jodi, I noticed your feedback on a peer review for the Natasha Demkina article. I've been working on a draft that expands the article to include more of her background history, her family, current events, and more on the debate concerining the CSICOP test. I'd appreciate it if you'd take a look at the draft and let me know what you think. Thanks!

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Updated DYK query On October 18, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Turvey, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 01:43, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

re: ArbCom Questions for Paul August

Hi Maclean. I've answered your questions. Thanks for asking. Paul August 19:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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You failed the good faith test!

You reverted my edit. I did not blank the page, I actually improved it. Maybe you should actually check the diff next time. 00:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

  • You're right, my apologies. I was reverting the blanked page but reverted two edits back. --maclean 00:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

List of films with similar themes and release dates AfD

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Energy: world resources and consumption

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Deletion review of an article you commented on

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List page afd

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Red River Trails

Thanks for the note. I have no objection to a nomination. I still have one section to complete and another to write. Kablammo 00:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC) Although two sections still need expansion, all sections of the article now have text. Kablammo 02:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the nomination, and the note. I was concerned about it appearing on the page before it was substantially completed. Those concerns proved to be unfounded, and while some work still needs to be done, it now is a complete article (but not a finished one). Thanks again. Kablammo 15:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


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Could you please look over this afd: [6]? Thanks. CJCurrie 01:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

re: introspection

Yup, that was me. Thanks for reading it. Take care.--Keefer | Talk 20:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


Hi, I've done some stuff with it. Such as putting the history section after Geograghy, and merging the civic history into the main history section. Can you help me add the footnotes to it? Because I really don't know what footnotes are. Alphablast 20:02, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

  • I've made a few edits to the article. For footnotes, just copy and paste the format used in the article and fill in with the relevant information. --maclean 22:25, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Birchington-on-Sea

I have left a reply. Thanks. Epbr123 08:57, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:FICT rewrite

I've been working on integrating suggetestions, optimising organization, and clarifying unclear statements. User:Deckiller/Notability (fiction). — Deckiller 03:59, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

  • You incorporated my writing into're making me blush. I'm just a shy, lowly editor (sometimes opinionated) who likes to help out, not a big guideline writer. --maclean 05:15, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


Your comments on Erie's FAC have been addressed. I didn't want to shorten the history down to low, though. The main article is just basically more structured for a reader. But everything else has been taken care of. --trey 04:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

  • I have reviewed it again and provided further input. --maclean 07:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for the review. Kingjeff 19:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Your welcome. --maclean 07:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Hamilton, Ontario

I have been following the development of the Hamilton, Ontario article and I wanted to commend you on the work you did to help bring it up to Featured Article status. I can see that you're very involved in the process with all kinds of articles. Good job! ... discospinster talk 00:30, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Thank you. Sometimes I take an interest and try to help. --maclean 07:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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I am proud to award this Special Barnstar to Maclean25 for your hard work/ contributions in helping the Hamilton, Ontario wikipedia article reach the "featured article" status. Nhl4hamilton 19:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Sale, Greater Manchester

Thanks for the review. I'm not sure what you meant by "what services does the Borough provide Sale?" Could you give some examples, please? I think addressed your other concerns. Epbr123 22:18, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

  • For example, my city collects property taxes and in return provides sewer and water, fire protection, door-to-door garbage collection (hopefully recycling soon). My regional government provides my city a landfill, financial services, etc. So I'm looking for the what the relationship between the Borough and Sale consists of. --maclean 07:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Council services have now been added. I think the article's now ready to be reassessed. Many thanks. Epbr123 08:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure what further improvements are needed. Most FA city article demoraphic sections contain lists; it would reduce the usefulness of the article to remove them. Epbr123 07:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
      • Yes, I do agree with your suggested wording and have added it to the article. It doesn't actually require any further references as the same statistics are provided in the 2001 Census reference. I do think its useful to some readers to include the more detailed "0.3%" stats but as long as some of these are included in the table its not too bad. Any more suggestions? Thanks. Epbr123 10:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

review of Birmingham

Maclean, thanks for your review of [Birmingham]. I'm new to wikipedia, so would appreciate if you could have a look a the changes i have made to [Famous residents] in response to your review. is this what you were thinking of?UKbandit 11:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


I have addressed your objections at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Erie, Pennsylvania. Geography was greatly expanded and I fixed your other objections (style, ect.). I really appreciate the concerns you have brought up. Please update your oppose vote.--trey 19:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you ment. Are the things that you did not strike out not done? (also, the above list you provided, if they are done, tell me to strike them or strike them out yourself) or does this mean you are not done reviewing? --trey 23:07, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Are these new (current) objections you have added?--trey 14:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I have moved much of the hard-number demographics to a new page.--trey 17:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Sheerness

I think I have addressed most of your concerns, although I am unable to find any crime data for the town as a whole. Epbr123 23:45, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

City template

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Prince George is looking great!

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The 1st ever Mr. PG Award!!!

Thanks so much for all your help with Prince George, British Columbia and for your advice at the peer review.

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Shaw and Crompton

Hello Maclean,

You gave Shaw and Crompton an "oppose" for FA status on its nomination page. The article has been through a lot since you passed comment, and wondered if these changes would make you change your opinion to support (!)? I took all your comments on board, and think we have a very high quality article now. You may think otherwise of course. Hope you get change to make an input, Jza84 12:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Your opinion welcome at deletion review for Plot of Les Mis

After Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Plot of Les Misérables closed as a deletion, I'm challenging the way the closing administrator acted as in violation of Wikipedia rules. Your participation is welcome at that discussion, Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 July 14. Please keep in mind that only arguments related to either new information or to how Wikipedia rules were violated or not violated in closing the discussion will be considered. It isn't a replay of the original AfD. I'm familiar with WP:CANVASSING and I am alerting everyone who participated in that discussion to the deletion review. I won't contact anyone again on this topic, and I apologize if you consider this note distracting. Noroton 04:49, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Law enforcement in British Columbia, 2005

I'm not sure why, but I have trouble seeing this as anything more than "neutral" overall. Maybe I'm mildly blasé with the FLC process at the time, I'm not sure. I made various, mostly inconsequential edits to the article, but there is still atleast one thing that must be fixed, and it's the need for a bolded topic in the lead, ideally the same phrase as the article title ("law enforcement in British Columbia" minus the year, in this case, which can be bolded as a separate element of the sentence).

Another issue for me is these horizontal arrows in the table of the lead. Maybe these should be replaced by something else or dropped entirely as they could cause accessibility issues. The simplest suggestion might be to give these cells style="padding-left1.5em;" (or whatever between 1em and 2em looks best).

I suspect this should actually be something like "Law enforcement in British Columbia in 2005", since the only stuff that uses the comma+year format are, as far as I can tell, are elections (compare the articles in subcategories of Category:2005). Oh yeah, you should add the article to Category:2005 in Canada while at it. Circeus 17:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the suggestions. I integrated them. I think all the required information is there, it just doesn't have that aesthetically-pleasing layout yet. Too much grey and blue? One column too many? --maclean 06:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Pygmy Hippopotamus

Just a note to let you know that I've responded to your questions. If you have any other questions or concerns don't hesitate to let me know! --JayHenry 02:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

FA Bratislava

Hello. I've spun off some data into a new article and I have a question. Would you mind reading the candidature page again and commenting? Regards, MarkBA t/c/@ 20:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. This time it is partly for FA and partly for Demographics of Bratislava article. I decided to add historical population, but I'm not absolutely sure if I'm right to your question about religion "jump"; all I think it is that because commies didn't really like religion as such and at the time of the 1st census, not all have expressed their religious identity yet (though there may be other reason, of course). To the FA, do you think Demographics section is now acceptable or it needs some adjustments? And while I'm at it, could you express your opinion whether History should have considerable share (35–50%) of recent (it means, from 1918) history? Regards, MarkBA t/c/@ 18:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
  • The Demographics suffers from prose problems (no transitions/flow). In general, it is very difficult to write good prose for demographics because it is so number-heavy. That is why I think it best to use a table/chart/graph combined with prose that describes the population in general or the highlights. The source displays only limited information (that I could find in the english version) so this also makes it more difficult to write. As for the History section, I think the entire section is too long. It should use Wikipedia:Summary Style and be limited to only a couple paragraphs (the history of India takes 5 paragraphs) focusing directly on the city's development and less on world events. --maclean 00:53, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
    • I've changed those data into table (well, it's probably not best-looking but I think it should be fine). Rest is lying in the main article. To the History, I've looked what I could remove, however, I find it hard to find what should be ever deleted and so I only (re)moved some demography data into Demographics section. What do you think about results? MarkBA t/c/@ 19:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
      • Sorry if I'm bothering you, but could you please check my changes and comments? Regards, MarkBA t/c/@ 17:28, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Andre Kertesz FAC:

Thank you very much for your support on the mentioned FAC - I've left notes replying to some concerns you raised, especially if you'd prefer to have the beekeeper problem eliminated. Again, thanks for your much needed support (I'm surprised the FAC got this far with so little comment on it). Cheers, Spawn Man 04:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC). P.S. Congrats on your marriage! I got engaged at the beginning of the year - partners really do make you want to wake up in the morning. :) Cheers.

Oh, and thanks for your spelling and grammar checks on the actual article! :) Spawn Man 04:19, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

FL Main page proposal

You either nominated a WP:FLC or closed such a nomination recently. As such, you are the type of editor whose opinion I am soliciting. We now have over 400 featured lists and seem to be promoting in excess of 30 per month of late (41 in August and 42 in September). When Today's featured article (TFA) started (2004-02-22), they only had about 200 featured articles and were barely promoting 20 new ones per month. I think the quality of featured lists is at least as good as the quality of featured articles was when they started appearing on the main page. Thus, I am ready to open debate on a proposal to institute a List of the Day on the main page with nominations starting November 1 2007, voting starting December 1 2007 and main page appearances starting January 1 2008. For brevity, the proposal page does not discuss the details of eventual main page content, but since the work has already been done, you should consider this proposal assuming the eventual content will resemble the current content at the featured content page. Such output would probably start at the bottom of the main page. The proposal page does not debate whether starting with weekly list main page entries would be better than daily entries. However, I suspect persons in favor of weekly lists are really voicing opinions against lists on the main page since neither TFA nor Picture of the day started as weekly endeavors, to the best of my knowledge. Right now debate seems to be among support for the current selective democratic/consensus based proposal, a selective dictatorial approach like that used at WP:TFA or a non-selective first in line/calendar approach like that used at WP:POTD. See the List of the Day proposal and comment at WP:LOTDP and its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


No problem. It was actually quite a good article. Though I am still very confused at the "semi-automated peer review" that was done?!?! I actually re-read the article at least twice looking for "weasel words" and other grammatical insufficencies, and couldn't really find any. Though I still think a copyedit can't hurt for GA status, just to find other things I might have missed. But overall, the prose is quite good.

I left my review on the talk page; most are pretty minor issues that shouldn't be too much trouble to fix. The biggest issue might be just finishing the history section, as it kind of leaves you somewhere in the 1980s.

It's good to keep working towards FAC, though the article probably has quite a way to go for that. GA status can have a few gaps in referencing, but FA articles are pretty anal-retentive here -- go through it and make sure every single possible statement that should be cited is, and review WP:CITE for guidelines on formatting citations and such. You might also want to take a look at some of the external links and see if there's information in those links that could be added to parts of the article as well.

Cheers! Dr. Cash 05:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Brownhills

Hi there

Sorry to trouble you, but I noticed that you made some excellent input to the Peer Review of Manchester, and I was wondering if you had the time to take a look at another "town" Peer Review? It's been up for a while but I've not had any comments - if you could lend your experttise it would be much appreciated!

All the best

ChrisTheDude 09:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Lawrence Sullivan Ross FAC

Hi, thank you for commenting on the FAC for Lawrence Sullivan Ross. I've responded to your concerns there. If you have time, I would appreciate it if you could take a look and see if I've adequately addressed your comments. Thanks! 14:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


Hi maclean. I am a firm believer that all facts need to have inline citations. Without those citations, it is very difficult for someone to verify those; in my opinion, pointing someone to a large list of references just doesn't cut it. The information in the article had to come from somewhere, and all I ask is that they cite where it comes from, both to allow for verification and to ensure that it is not original research. If the information can't be found in a reliable source, it shouldn't be included in the article. Karanacs 19:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


Hi Maclean, thanks for the e-mail the changes look great. It never even dawned on me that putting Fort Garry, Manitoba in 1869 was wrong, nice catch --Cloveious 09:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On November 9, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The World Without Us, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured List of the Day Experiment

There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The World Without Us GA "On Hold"

I noticed that you nominated The World Without Us for Good Article status and I have reviewed the article. I just placed it "On Hold" and left some notes on the article Talk Page. They are mostly just minor fixes and once done the article should pass easily. If you work on it and have any questions about my assessment please feel free to ask on the talk page there or my talk page. Good luck. Phydend 04:26, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


Template:User Good Article - I've just reviewed the article again and everything looks great now so I passed it. Good job and congratulations. Phydend 16:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


A Barnstar!
The Red Maple Leaf Award

For your high quality contribution on geography articles in the Peace Country, I offer you this red maple leaf. Keep up the excellent work. --Qyd 17:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


Hello, I believe (from this list you are a volunteer for peer reviewing articles about settlements?

I wondered if you'd be interested in taking a breif look at Wikipedia:Peer review/Neilston/archive1 and give me some feedback. Hope you can help. No problem if not, -- Jza84 · (talk) 02:37, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


Is there anyway you can look over Davenport, Iowa and if u feel like doing two, Iowa and tell me what i need to fix/improve to get it to GAC? I'm also asking User:Epbr123's opinion too, so if you could respond on the respective article talk pages...thanks Ctjf83 talk 02:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

for geography, i'm not sure what you mean by "be more descriptive on the city's situation and its layout." and about the map. you're not suggesting I put a map pic on here, right? Ctjf83 talk 17:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for stopping by the FAC. In a day or so, could I ask you to give it another flypast? Am keen to address any 'oppose' issues and would like to hear if you have any further comments. Cheers Dick G (talk) 09:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your further thoughts. Have made some more changes per your comments; here's hoping that oppose might thaw with some Christmas spirit :) Dick G (talk) 23:47, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, since Raul has now rebooted the above's FAC, I'd be grateful if you'd take another look and see whether your previous concerns have been addressed. Many thanks Dick G (talk) 06:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Just a belated thanks for your input on Wormshill which achieved FA while I was on a wikibreak. Cheers Dick G (talk) 23:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

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Hi. Thanks for your message. I anxiously await the opinions of Victoriagirl99 and Victoriagirl100. Victoriagirl (talk) 04:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Tel Aviv peer review

Hi, I listed Tel Aviv for a peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Tel Aviv. I saw you are interested in cities and so have contacted you to see whether you might consider helping with this. I have contacted two other users as well. Many thanks in advance.--Flymeoutofhere (talk) 20:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Following Tel Aviv's third failed FAC, I have worked on the issues brought up and renominated it for a peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Tel Aviv/archive3. Thanks. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 11:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for reviewing Le Père Goriot. Cheers! – Scartol • Tok 03:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

  • My Peer Review request is one above yours. hint hint. --maclean 04:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Your removal of Mahmoud Zahar from the recent deaths sidebar

Hi. Do you have an explanation why you removed Mahmoud Zahar from the sidebar for recent deaths on the current events page? You just marked your edit rm, which is not a sufficient explanation for the reason behind the removal. I am inclined to think your edit qualifies as vandalism. I await your explanation.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 02:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I apologize. I had to read the article again. It was his son. I could have sworn the article said it was him. Sorry about that (although rm still isn't much of an explanation).--Cdogsimmons (talk) 02:08, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't tend to give explanations in the edit summary. I don't like those long automated Undo version so and so by so and so etc etc edit summaries. I prefer just say what I'm doing quietly with as little fuss as possible. In this specific case, I didn't know if it was an honest mistake or done intentionally (good faith: as a connection to the deceased - or - bad faith: sneaky vandalism). So I just removed it quietly. I trust that someone will see my edit and revert if it is wrong. You noticed, so that is good. --maclean 05:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Industrial production of sock accounts

For awhile there, it seemed we were headed for Victoriagirl and Sunray. It was largely due to your vigilance that it got stopped (if only for the moment, perhaps). Thank you. Sunray (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

  • She is very persistent but after a while a M.O. forms. We missed User:Backtalk99. --maclean 07:24, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Would you be willing to share some of your views on this? I note you don't have e-mail enabled. Let me know if there is another way I could communicate with you "offline." Sunray (talk) 19:46, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I didn't realize my email was not enabled. Fixed. I emailed what I know of its history. --maclean 02:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Lots to chew on. I will get back to you in the next couple of days. Sunray (talk) 16:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Tel Aviv

Hi. I have carried out extensive work on the article based upon your feedback. If you could take a look at this and see if it meets your expectations, I would really appreciate it. Many thanks--Flymeoutofhere (talk) 19:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Maclean25, I think the issues you raised at the Tel Aviv FAC have been addressed. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 18:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Election FPTP candidate

A tag has been placed on Template:Election FPTP candidate requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes.

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

David Suzuki: The Autobiography

Updated DYK query On 31 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article David Suzuki: The Autobiography, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 23:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Neilston FAC

Hello again Maclean25,

You mentioned ([7]) that I may contact you once Neilston reached FAC for a copyedit. Well, that time has come and was wondering if you could take a look at the article once again. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Neilston has thrown up a suggestion that parts are in need of a copyedit from fresh eyes, so this seems to work here... that is... if you're willing and able??? Hope you can get some time to take a look. I would really appreciate you input, however small (or bold!) it may be. Thanks, -- Jza84 · (talk) 01:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Sure, I'll review it over the next couple of days. --maclean 02:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Reactive attachment disorder

Hi. I had a go at meeting your comments raised. Would you like to check it please and see if it satisfies your concerns? Thanks. Fainites. Fainites barley 20:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for your productive and helpful support. Fainites barley 16:08, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Your welcome. Thank you for putting up with my naive comments. --maclean 23:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tyrone Wheatley

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tyrone Wheatley has been restarted. Your renewed support would be appreciated.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 03:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

  • I've done some copy-editiing for it and I will respond at the FAC page. --maclean 23:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Pattern Recognition

Have you considered asking Skomorokh to review? He was the editor who took William Gibson through FAC and might have useful comments. Mike Christie (talk) 22:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

  • I have just contacted him [8] --maclean 23:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if that's less Victorian...

Thanks for the laugh. :) --Laser brain (talk) 02:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Mangalore GA review

Will you review the Mangalore article. It is a city in India. It is currently a GA nominee. I have contacted you because your name appears here: Wikipedia:Peer review/volunteers#Geography. ThankYou, Kensplanet (talk) 09:11, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it and leave notes on the peer review page. At first glance it looks good. --maclean 06:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Peer review idea

Hi, I have made a proposal that no peer review request be archived without some response. To aid in this, there is a new list of PR requests at least one week old that have had no repsonses beyond a semi-automated peer review. This list is at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog.

There are just over 100 names on the PR volunteers page, so I figure if each of these volunteers reviewed just one or two PR requests without a response from the list each month, it would easily take care of the "no response" backlog (as there have been 2 or 3 such unanswered requests a day on average).

If you would be able to help out with a review or two a month from the "no responses" backlog list that would be great (and much appreciated). Please discuss questions, comments, or ideas at the PR talk page and thanks in advance for your help, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 00:15, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

The Guardian of Education

Just wanted to let you know that I went to the rare books library today to get that information for The Guardian of Education article. I added what I could. Awadewit (talk) 04:07, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Thank you for following-up. Your dedication to comprehensiveness and quality is unsurpassed. --maclean 05:11, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for looking at this bugger.. I believe I have addressed your comments. I went over the generalized statements you mentioned, and went around pickup up after rogue "also's". There are a few left but they seem to make sense to me. --Laser brain (talk) 17:06, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you kindly

Hi, maclean, thank you for reverting the nasty vandalism on my userpage and for reporting the apparently related "votestacking" at WP:AN/I. Funny the things that happen while I'm asleep! Take care, María (habla conmigo) 12:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXIII - April 2008

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You are receiveing this message because your name appears on the WikiProject Vancouver Members List. The WikiProject Vancouver is currently having a roll-call; if you are still interested in participating, please visit Wikipedia:WikiProject_Vancouver/Members and remove the asterisk (*) from your name on the list. If you are unavailable your name will be moved to the inactive list on Monday, April 28 2008. Also the WikiProject is currently discussing some proposed changes on the talk page. Thank you for your time. Mkdwtalk 08:04, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Mario Vargas Llosa FAC

I just wanted to respond here as to not clutter the FAC. Translators are good, but jstor is a pay cite and translations of the PDFs are harder to come by. I don't know if there is a tool out there that would solve both at the same time. Ottava Rima (talk)

  • The linking to a pay cite is annoying and I hope they get rid of it (seems contradictory to WP's goals of supporting free culture). The translators I've seen all require you to copy&paste text out of the pdf. My comment isn't meant to solve anything, but rather to provide a tool. That specific debate will continue: didn't start here and won't end here. --maclean 02:57, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay, good. I wasn't sure how it would work with the PDFs. Thanks for clarifying. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 03:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Oxford - Peer Review Request

I've listed the Oxford article for peer review because I would like to know how it could be improved. If you have time please could you review it for me? Thanks. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 15:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The General in His Labyrinth

Hi maclean, it's nice to see you again at The General in His Labyrinth FAC. I just wanted to let you know that we have addressed or commented on your comments. Hopefully, if you have time, you can stop by and see it things have improved. Thanks again for all your help! Eshiu (talk) 19:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:David Suzuki The Autobiography paperback.jpg)

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Year Zero

Thanks so much for all of your help. It's rare for someone to stick with an FAC like that, so I appreciate it. I'm a firm believer in reciprocity, so feel free to drop me a line if you ever have something up at FAC or anywhere else. Drewcifer (talk) 01:35, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, would you mind terribly {{hide}}ing your comments? Not that they're unsightly, but in my experience it helps people review the article with less clutter on the FAC page. Thanks either way. Drewcifer (talk) 20:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
I will take you up on that review offer sooner or later. However, I don't like using the hiding function. --maclean 02:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


It was a pleasure helping out on the article. I really enjoyed it, and it reminded me how much I love that part of our beautiful continent. All the best, Dan.—DCGeist (talk) 05:37, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Vancouver Meetup 2008

{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Vancouver/Meetup 2008/Invite}}

See you there! Franamax (talk) 06:27, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Muppets' Wizard of Oz

I have fixed everything. Will you support the article? Limetolime talk to me look what I did! 20:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, by the way,could you please leave a note on my talk page when you leave the Support or Oppose? Sorry to be pushy, but I really want this article to reach FA status. Have a nice day, Limetolime talk to me look what I did! 21:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey it's me again. (Sorry). At the nomination, you stated that you would be happy to support the article if the problems were fixed. Since everything has been fixed (I added a few more comments, too), could you please leave a Support at the nomination. I'm SO desperate, I'd do anything! Limetolime talk to me look what I did! 01:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I am reading it now. But I often get distracted so it might take a few hours. --maclean 01:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, I've fixed your final requests. Is the article good enough to become a Featured article? Limetolime talk to me look what I did! 19:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, you haven't put a Support at the nomination. Does that mean it's not ready? Please leave a note on my talk page. Limetolime talk to me look what I did! 00:50, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Martha Kostuch

Wow — thanks for the compliment! —GrantNeufeld (talk) 13:35, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

4/29 DYK

Updated DYK query On 29 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Martha Kostuch, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford 09:55, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXIV - May 2008

The May 2008 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. SteveCrossinBot (talk) 08:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Eastwood, Notts

Hi. I've recently rewritten the article Eastwood, Nottinghamshire. I would appreciate it if you have time to peer review it. Thanks in anticipation, --  Chzz  ►  06:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I have added a few comments. --maclean 16:39, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks; I have taken the comments on-board, I'm doing some background research to slowly improve the article. --  Chzz  ►  20:04, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Muppets' Wizard of Oz

Hi! The article is up at candidates page again, would you like to support it again? Limetolime talk to me look what I did! 21:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Assignment: Bralorne, British Columbia

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to develop and guide the Bralorne, British Columbia article which an IP user known as sfs just started and I fixed up a bit (see Talk:Minto City as to why I've put this off so long). It's because of your amazing work on Dawson Creek that Iv'e been thinking of asking you to do this ever since; I'm far from BC libraries/bookstores though I know what's in what and where. Bralorne is ultra-important in BC/Canadian mining history, and Lewis Green's book is really great; it and the companion aticles of Pioneer Mine and Brexton are all sometime FA candidates, as is Minto City if done up right. anyway, I'm in Nova Scotia now, drifting farther away from BC by summer probably; I promise you that Bralorne will be more than worth it, among the many articles I know would be worth devleoping (lately I've been seduced by Hagensborg/Bella Coola and Tallheo but "haven't gone there"). I'm here to troubleshoot and sort out vagueness in the sources, but I'd really like to see a pro editor take charge of this; sfs means well but doesn't know wiki style well enough, and his narravitve style is somewhat random and un-encyclopedic (moreso than mine, and taht's saying something....). I'll start the other Bridge River-area stubs tonight; Bridge River Gold Rush and Bridge River Mining District I'll launch from memory (similar but diff contexts; some of the former is contained inmy current additions to the Bralorne stub). Anyway, if you can't or aren't so included please let me know so I can try to recruit someone selse. Bralorne's pretty well-known in mining history, so someone from WikiProject Mining might show up.....the Lewis Green book the Great Years is a great read, even if you've got no time to do the article. Among so many other mining-town articles needed, huh? (at least 50 in the Cariboo, for instance....likewise in the Slocan/Boundary/West Kootenay).Skookum1 (talk) 00:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review of Meridian, Mississippi

Hi, Maclean25, I recently added the article about Meridian, Mississippi to be peer reviewed. I looked in the Geography list of volunteers, and you were the first to deal with cities. If you have the time, input at the review page would be helpful. Thanks! --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 17:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Featured article drive

Hey, Maclean. I recall that I contacted you for help concerning the peer review of Lincolnshire, Illinois. Well, I do thank you for that, as it is proceeding through GAN right now; however, I think that greater things can be done in the Wikipedian world of cities, hence the reason for why I am organizing a featured article drive for the Cities WikiProject. However, from what I see, the only way to facilitate this movement is to collect all data about each city's flaws prior. That means peer review. Are you up for the job?

If so, I have already started a peer review of the city of Los Angeles, California, the first of eighteen.

Please get back to me as soon as you can.

Thanks, --Starstriker7(Dime algoor see my works) 13:09, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Request for Peer Review help

Thank you for you work as a peer review volunteer. Since March, there has been a concerted effort to make sure all peer review requests get some response. Requests that have gone three days or longer without a substantial response are listed at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog. I have three requests to help this continue.

1) If you are asked to do a peer review, please ask the person who made the request to also do a review, preferably of a request that has not yet had feedback. This is fairly simple, but helps. For example when I review requests on the backlog list, I close with Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, ...

2) While there are several people who help with the backlog, lately I have been doing up to 3 or 4 peer reviews a day and can not keep this up much longer. We need help. Since there are now well over 100 names on the PR volunteers page, if each volunteer reviewed just one PR request without a response from the list each month, it would easily take care of the "no response" backlog. To help spread out the load, I suggest those willing pick a day of the month and do a review that day (for example, my first edit was on the 8th, so I could pick the 8th). Please pick a peer review request with no responses yet, if possible off the backlog list. If you want, leave a note on my talk page as to which day you picked and I will remind you each month.

3) I have made some proposals to add some limits to peer review requests at Wikipedia_talk:Peer_review#Proposed_limits. The idea is to prevent any one user from overly burdening the process. These seem fairly reasonable (one PR request per editor per day, only four total PR requests per editor at a time, PR requests with cleanup banners can be delisted (like GAN quick fail), and wait two weeks to relist a PR request after it is archived), but have gotten no feedback in one week. If you have any thoughts on these, please weigh in.

Thanks again for your help and in advance for any assistance with the backlog. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Tireless Contributor Barnstar

Thank you for the barnstar! I also appreciate your work in BC-related articles. :) Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 23:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: incorrect warning

Yeah, you were right. It was an error and thanks for letting me know. I saw the word "pimp" and reflexed. (apparently, Cluebot did the same thing. I guess that tells you my intelajince level...) Thingg 02:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Your response on his talk page is excellent. I was wondering what triggered Cluebot, I guess it was "pimp". --maclean 02:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

My page

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my user page. Imperial Star Destroyer (talk) 15:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

FA thanks

Don't let my delinquency diminish your perception of my appreciation for your assistance. You may want to add the following somewhere: Template:User Featured Article--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXV - June 2008

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The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXV - June 2008

The June 2008 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. SteveBot (owner) 02:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Tree: A Life Story DYK

Updated DYK query On 6 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tree: A Life Story, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations! --PeterSymonds (talk) 21:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Boston Bruins head coaches

Hockey is different. The formula for hockey is Wins + 0.5(ties)/total games. Thanks, « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 01:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Done with your comments. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 01:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I added the playoff record. Hockey reference is definitely reliable as the data comes from the NHL Official Guide and Record Book. Surprised to see that error. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 21:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, replaced with another reference. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 23:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tree: A Life Story

The article Tree: A Life Story you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold.Symbol wait.svg It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Tree: A Life Story for things needed to be addressed. D.M.N. (talk) 18:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Commented back. D.M.N. (talk) 13:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


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I added the info in the text. I was unable to find one solid reference, so instead, I overloaded and put four references on the statement. The refs do check out. As for the tagging, thanks for letting me know about that rule. Cheers.--LAAFan 03:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Toronto Blue Jays managers

They must have miswrote it. I fixed it on the table. Annoyomous24 01:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Did you know

Hi. I've reviewed your DYK submission for the article Race Against Time (Stephen Lewis), and made a comment on it at the submissions page. Please feel free to reply or comment there. Cheers, Art LaPella (talk) 23:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Re : Odex's actions against file-sharing

Thanks for copyediting and fixing up the article, I appreciate that! :) To be honest, the article was a source of grief for me; I gave up in getting it up to GA/FA. - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 06:30, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome. I think I read it at Peer Review a while ago but didn't say anything. It's a great article that slipped through the cracks of our review system; it just needed a copyedit. While I was there I added cite templates (probably not necessary but I didn't mind) and removed dead links (I'm not too swift with how the archivelink thing works). We'll see what some random stranger says at Good Article Nominations and then I encourage you to take it to FAC. You would have my support and assistance. -maclean 06:43, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing the article up to GA! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 19:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

First emergency special session of the United Nations General Assembly

Updated DYK query On 21 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article First emergency special session of the United Nations General Assembly, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 07:46, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Lions (album) FAC

Hey there, Maclean. I see that you've reviewed a WP:ALBUM featured article candidate in the past and am wondering if I could get you to take a look at my current FAC, Lions (album). I'd appreciate your input. —Zeagler (talk) 20:06, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Did you know?

Updated DYK query On 24 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Race Against Time (Stephen Lewis), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Ryan Postlethwaite 03:21, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Vancouver Canucks head coaches

I was wondering if you want to review my featured list nomination for List of Vancouver Canucks head coaches. Thanks if you do! –.– K. Annoyomous24 23:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)




Sixth emergency special session of the United Nations General Assembly DYK

Updated DYK query On 25 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sixth emergency special session of the United Nations General Assembly, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 05:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Blue jays managers FLC

To be honest, I don't know how to do that. I think it's gona be tough. If you give me a aricle that does command related to this article, then please tell me. -- K. Annoyomous24 08:45, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I prepared something similar for the Canucks coach list in my sandbox here [9] but didn't receive any comment on it and it seems the momentum has left that. Try this and this but you require a library card to log in. I can provide further assistance if there is something specific you require. maclean 00:34, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
You're also from Vancouver? -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! 02:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
In spirit, I am. But not in person. --maclean 02:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't get your logic... Also, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! 02:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi maclean, I'm holding off promotion based on your concern. Any help you could give KA24 to alleviate your conerns would be great. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm honored that my opinion matters so much. I will review it this evening. --maclean 19:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

RDs etc.

Please see Category talk:Regional Districts of British Columbia, the "Coast/Interior" section. This is a follow-up from reading your comments on the List of Electoral Areas talkpage/Skookum1 (talk) 21:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the quick revert on User talk:MrDolomite. I was rolling back that vandal's edits when I saw the message come up and by time I got there, you had already fixed it. — MrDolomite • Talk 16:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Toronto Blue Jays managers

Hi Maclean. I asked a question regarding references at the above FLC and was directed to you. If you could visit the page and satisfy my curiosity, I'd appreciate it. Matthewedwards (talk contribs  email) 00:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I have access to Canadian Newsstand - it covers most newspapers in Canada dating back to ~1977. If you are working on any articles that you may think this may help, I can do a search and email you the articles. --maclean 00:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. Actually, if you could do searches on any or all of "The Kids of Degrassi Street", "Degrassi Junior High", "Degrassi High", "School's Out", and "Degrassi Talks", I'd really appreciate it. I'm completely done with Degrassi: The Next Generation! :) Matthewedwards (talk contribs  email) 00:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Well done

AFC-Barnstar-2.png The Articles for Creation Barnstar
I present you with the AFC barnstar in recognition of your work getting The Penelopiad to featured status. This is the very first AFC article which has made it so far. Well done. MSGJ (talk) 12:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)



Lincolnshire, Illinois for Peer Review

Hi Maclean25...I was hoping that you could take a look at this article. It could use the evaluation, and I could use the experience.

Thanks, --Starstriker7(Say hior see my works) 14:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/National Basketball Association awards

User:K. Annoyomous24/FLC review

Degrassi emails

Thank you so much for the emails. Today was the first time I checked my account since talking to you so I had completely forgot that I had asked. I really appreciate them. Thanks again! Matthewedwards (talk contribs  email) 01:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

FAC 2/Odexed

Hi again! I'm planning to send off Odex's actions against file-sharing for FAC again soon once I finish running through its Peer Review. Is there anything you think I may have missed out on or needs fixing for the article before I do so? Thanks in advance! - Cheers Mailer Diablo 19:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

  • Sounds good. I'll make a final pass through it tonight. --maclean 19:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Thanks! It's now up. Let's hope it makes through this time round. - Mailer Diablo 03:56, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Same problem as the last time, don't mind if you can glance through again? - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 04:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
        • Yes, I will do what I can. A fresh set of eyes wondering in and helping out with the copyedits would be great, too. --maclean 04:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Ah, something that I saw in the bookstore last week. Will do. I'm no grammarian, but I'll work on the prose's style. :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 10:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
    • Sorry to hear that your FAC couldn't pass. On my end despite able to get copyeditors, Odex FAC is still considered a no-go for spelling, grammar and punct. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 16:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I've got the reviewers who have raised concerns to have a second (or third) look. Hopefully there should be new developments at the FAC... - Mailer Diablo 13:36, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Calling all active WP:NOVELS members

WikiProject Novels Roll Call
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WikiProject Novels is currently holding a roll call, which we hope to have annually. Your username is listed on the members list, but we are unsure as to which editors are still active within the project. If you still consider yourself an active WP:Novels editor, please add your name back to the Active Members list. Also feel free to join any of our task forces and take a look at the project's Job Centre to get involved!

Next month we will begin the coordinator election selection process. We hope to have more involvement and input this time around! More news will be forthcoming. Thanks, everyone! María (habla conmigo) 18:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review

Hi, I was hoping you could help me out with my peer review request for the Davenport, Iowa page. I worked really hard to get it to a GA in March, and am hoping to get it to an FA by the end of this year. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Ctjf83Talk 02:21, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK ~ The War Within: A Secret White House History (2006–2008)

Updated DYK query On 14 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The War Within: A Secret White House History (2006–2008), which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for nominating. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 17:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the verification on my DYK nomination, the alternate hook looks (and sounds) good. --Gwib (talk) 19:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review Request Lakeside Apartments District, Oakland, California

I'm humbly asking for your considered opinion on my peer review request for the Lakeside Apartments District, Oakland, California page. I've listed this article for peer review because, at present the City of Oakland's Planning Commission and City Council is revising zoning and height regulations for new land development (i.e. skyscrapers) in the neighborhood. Currently, much public attention is focused on this neighborhood in the Hearing Rooms at City Hall down the street, around in the conference tables of local investment banks, and kitchen tables of local activists. Having spent many hours editing it, I'd hope this article reflects a modicum of accuracy and good encyclopedic writing.Critical Chris (talk) 20:16, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Egan-Sud, Quebec

Updated DYK query On 16 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Egan-Sud, Quebec, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations --Mifter (talk) 10:15, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


Template:User WP AH invite Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 19:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Road to FAC 3/Odexed

As PR has a 14-day debarring period before it can be put up, I'm thinking of stopping by a few places first. One of the first ones would be FA-Team, and see if we can obtain any new assistance for the article. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 18:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

We should give it a couple of months. Audit it again for writing. Ask for some opinions. Then bring it back to FAC. maclean 20:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

1A Rescue

I was speaking to another editor who also had his article failed due to 1(a) concerns. I recall you also have one article with similar symptoms. I'm thinking of setting up a mini-project so that all of us editors can coordinate and pool resources to tackle the 1(a) problems. What do you think? - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 10:50, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

I do see a few articles that have failed but only need a copy-edit. A team might work but I think it should be more of an informal association at first. If we can get a few wins then establish a more formal mini-project. Right now, I would be unlikely to devote a lot of time to such a team (too many demands in real life right now). I also suggest a price for assistance: if someone wants assistance they must complete the exercises at User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a and be willing to be called upon to assist someone else. --maclean 20:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments, yeah it should be just an informal association to begin with. I wished every Wikiproject has as many eyes as Military History, but unfortunately reality bites hard. - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 21:32, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - October 2008

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The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue 27 - October 2008
Project news
Member news
Task force news
Member in Focus
  • Template:User-multi has been a member of the Novels WikiProject for nearly two years, and a coordinator since May. Aside from her work outside the project (including four FAs and six GAs in various areas), she has been active in the Project's Assessment and Peer Review departments. She hopes to continue in these roles as well as help encourage more activity and community research within the Project. With the upcoming coordinator election, she hopes that others will volunteer to become more active in their roles as Project members so that we can continue to provide quality articles to the readers of this encyclopedia.
María (habla conmigo)
Current debates
From the Outreach Department

On the advice of Coordinator Maria, the newsletter is now only distributed to active listed members of the Novels Project. A new section has started with this issue called 'In Focus', which will feature various members and task forces each month.

Members are requested to post any news items to the Tip Line (found above) to make sure it reaches the next newsletter before closing date, which is always the last day of the preceding month. Any task force news should be added by the coordinator of that task force. Having news items helps inform members of what is happening at the various task forces and so can be a way of encouraging more membership and participation.

Editors are required to assist with the newsletter for Task Force News and Peer Reviews & Assessments News, which involves the gathering of news items from the main project and the various task forces. These positions may be applied for at the Job Centre.

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Our last newsletter's challenge Griffin's Daughter was uncompleted.

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Maclean25/Archive, you posted at one or more of the recent discussions of short FAs. There's now a proposal to change the featured article criteria that attempts to address this. Please take a look and consider adding your comments to the straw poll there. Mike Christie (talk) 19:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

DYK for My Story (Julie Couillard)

Updated DYK query On 12 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article My Story (Julie Couillard), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 05:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

DYK for The Dragon Lord

Updated DYK query On 18 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Dragon Lord, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Victuallers (talk) 18:34, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Deadly Cults

Thanks for the upgrade! Cheers, Cirt (talk) 00:53, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

A skilled hand was obviously behind that article. --maclean 00:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
You are most kind, thank you. Cirt (talk) 01:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the rating of Burn Rate (book).

Let me know if there is an article I should rate of yours or others to pay back or forwards.TCO (talk) 22:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Sure, try Gadsby (book). I haven't contributed to it but it's currently rated as a stub and should probably be higher. --maclean 06:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
I raised it to B and made comments. Didn't get the joke until I read the talk page.TCO (talk) 11:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

talk page

Thanks for the revert. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 16:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


I'm not really interested in that edit war anymore, since none of the positions that remain are anything that I can agree with and I can only put up a very weak argument for my own position (namely: "why can't we just have both?"). So, I'm still watching the page but not really participating. Soap Talk/Contributions 17:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I understand. I don't really get why people care so much as to edit war and stick it to each other. My part in this is to just prevent arguing over the title. No one has edit warred over that. I take your position to be 'neutral/no objection'. --maclean 18:05, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm not going to do that much either. Other than say that people coming over there, with no care for the article other than to be party poopers is sad. Think they are little twidgets. The kind that never write articles, but just drop textboxes like turds. TCO (talk) 19:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Everybody is doing what they think is best. maclean 23:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
So was Hitler.  ;-) TCO (talk) 23:53, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
P.s. Sometimes I'm not. TCO (talk) 23:53, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Have you read Godwin's law#Corollaries? maclean 01:14, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
I lose! TCO (talk) 01:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Ft Lauderdale, Florida

Hello, I just listed the article for Fort Lauderdale, Florida for peer review. Could you please consider helping me to get this article up and running for WP:FA status? I would like to start working on it as soon as possible. If you could let me know, I would appreciate it. Thank you. Canyouhearmenow 19:20, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - November 2008

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The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue 28 - November 2008
Member news
  • Coordinators election voting and question time is now open. Project members should vote for any candidates they wish to support by November 28 at the Coordinator Elections. Yllosubmarine, aka Maria, has decided not to be reappointed, her work as sole Coordinator since the last elections in May is highly appreciated by all members of the project.
  • The Novels Project now has 88 active members.
  • 18 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only do a position for a short time.
  • Ladywitchthought has taken on the position of coordinator for the "Lemony Snicket task force".
Project news

- Contributors are the_ed17, Maclean25 & Captain-tucker (who searched the archives).

Task force and related news
– Position of editor for 'Task force news' is still available at the Job Centre.
Peer review and assessment news
the_ed17 (talk), Editor – Peer review and assessment news
Member in Focus
  • Hi, I have been around this project for quite some time now. Bit of a hiatus earlier this year, but back now just contributing. The Novels WikiProject wasn't started by me but my interest in the subject initially attracted me to what was here. It has developed substantially in the last few years and now takes in all forms of Narrative Prose Fiction within its scope. We are about the content not the format of the prose so WP:Books differs a little in that an implied format is entailed; also they can also focus more clearly on non-fiction. WP:Literature are the "new boys on the block" and are a little more focused on the "quality" aspects of literature, and again they have less emphasis on pure fiction and the prose aspect. Our biggest problem is to maintain a certain focus of interest across such a broad subject area and we need workers who can develop task forces, teams for assessment, teams for peer review and so much more. "So much to do, so little time, I'm late, I'm late, I'm late" to misquote from Alice in Wonderland.

Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk)

Current debates
  • The featured list Narnian timeline has been nominated for removal. You can comment here. The Narnian timeline is a featured list, which means it has been identified as one of the best lists produced by the Wikipedia community.
Novel related news
From the Outreach Department

As I shall be leaving Wikipedia, this will be my last newsletter. Any member who is interested in taking over the role of editor can sign up for the position at the Job Centre.

Over the last month I have been working on a portal for our project. So am happy to announce that the Novels Portal is now up and running.

Boylo (talk), Editor

Thank you for getting this newsletter back on its feet and going again. No Boylo equals no Novels Portal...heck, without you, we wouldn't have had a newsletter for these past, for all of the members of the Novels WikiProject, I want to thank you for the time and effort you have put into this project, and I wish you the best of luck in all of your future endeavors. Thanks, pal.
the_ed17 (talk)
Collaboration of the Month
  • This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Novel.
    As this is our Project's premier article, all members are asked to assist.
    The next collaboration is due for selection on 21 November, 2008 so cast your vote.
Newsletter challenge

Our last newsletter's challenge The Cater Street Hangman was uncompleted.

  • The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is Mindplayers by science fiction author Pat Cadigan.
Announcements and open tasks

Template:WikiProject Novels announcements

This newsletter was automatically delivered by TinucherianBot (talk) 05:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the Barnstar ! I didnt even realize that the Project actually had its own barnstar as never seen it on anyone's talk page, so i am glad to get one. Keep up the good work ! Regards Boylo (talk) 06:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Lincolnshire, Illinois for Peer Review

Hey, Maclean.

Well, it's back. I managed to get Lincolnshire through GA on the comments from the last peer review, and am preparing to nominate it for FAC. However, I'd like to save the FA reviewers some trouble. Could you possibly lend a hand? Any aid would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, --Starstriker7(Dime algoor see my works) 23:17, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of History of Simon Fraser University

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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article History of Simon Fraser University, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

The article is essentially a duplication of the History section in the SFU article; any expansion ought to take place there, rather than break out a new article with no new information.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Cheers, LindsayHi 12:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

GA Review: The Lion, the Fox & the Eagle

Hi - I've reviewed the article and left some notes here. Congrats for working heavily upon the article. A talk 01:22, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I've passed the article - great work! a talk 00:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Right on. Thanks a lot for reviewing. --maclean 02:44, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your careful consideration at my successful RfA. Please let me know on my talk page if you have any suggestions for me. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 03:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

New straw poll

You are a user who responded to RFC: Use of logos on sports team pages. As someone interested in the discussion a new straw poll has been laid out to see where we currently stand with regards to building a consensus. For the sake of clarity, please indicate your support or opposition (or neutrality) to each section, but leave discussion to the end of each section. — BQZip01 — talk 23:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for The Ingenuity Gap

Updated DYK query On January 24, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Ingenuity Gap, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 00:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Quick question on this: what exactly constitutes "our" society? Remember, the world includes places like Canada and the US (themselves featuring a remarkable variety of development levels), but it also includes people like these. Perhaps "our" should be changed to "advanced Western"? - Biruitorul Talk 05:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
"Our" can probably be left out of that sentence. "...faced by societies are becoming...". Homer-Dixon is referring to all societies. I used "our" as a catch-all term. Not quite brilliant I admit. --maclean 05:32, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks for the explanation. - Biruitorul Talk 07:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


I had to change the hook. Schuym1 (talk) 22:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

you have a message


Template:Talkback p.s. go ahead and cut these two "messages" from your talk if you want.

The Ingenuity Gap

Hi, I reviewed you article, The Ingenuity Gap at Talk:The Ingenuity Gap/GA1 and passed it as Template:Icon. I see it as a nicely written article. I made a few changes where words were repeated and added some references to Kaplan's article on the web where Homer-Dixon is mentioned. Feel free to change what I did. Congratulations! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 01:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Right on, thanks. I'm glad to be done with that one. --maclean 01:55, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Byron Brown FAC

You were very helpful with my last politics FA. Do you have any opinion on my Byron Brown FAC?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Fences and Windows

Updated DYK query On February 9, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fences and Windows, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass 16:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Canadian Newsstand

Hi Maclean25. This is regarding #Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Toronto Blue Jays managers and #Degrassi emails.

A long time ago, back in August, you sent some articles you'd found from Newsstand regarding The Kids of Degrassi Street. I was wondering if you still had them in your outbox because I've changed computers twice since then and have also closed that email account. If you can't it's no problem, I just thought I'd ask. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk contribs  email) 17:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I can do that. I will need a couple of days though. maclean 19:09, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Fences and Windows

Updated DYK query On February 9, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fences and Windows, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass 22:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Fences and Windows

Hey, there! I'm going to be reviewing the article you nominated, Fences and Windows, for a Good Article. Feel free to comment on my talk page to post suggestions, comments, etc! Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 15:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Just let me know when you have finished evaluating it and I will address concerns. --maclean 18:04, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Congratulations, I have passed your article for GA! The issues which I addressed were minor enough to be able to pass the article! Good job. Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 23:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for the review and for your time. --maclean 21:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Peer review request for Home of Truth, Utah

I have requested a peer review for Home of Truth, Utah. If you get a chance, could you please review the article and leave any comments on the peer review discussion page? Thanks, Ntsimp (talk) 17:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and a request

Thanks for signing up at Wikipedia:Peer review/volunteers and for your work doing reviews. It is now just over a year since the last peer review was archived with no repsonse after 14 (or more) days, something we all can be proud of. There is a new Peer review user box to track the backlog (peer reviews at least 4 days old with no substantial response), which can be found here. To include it on your user or talk page, please add {{Wikipedia:Peer review/PRbox}} . Thanks again, and keep up the good work, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:50, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - March 2009

{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Outreach/Newsletter March 2009}} This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 17:06, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Jane Sterk

Updated DYK query On March 11, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jane Sterk, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 15:25, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


Hey Maclean, I was wondering if you could review the Spokane, Washington article in an ACR. After you read the article, I believe all you need to do is apply the A-Class criteria to the article and put whether you believe it is worthy of being A-class in the section dealing with the review in the articles Talk page. Also, in addition to doing the assessment, it would be helpful if you could include some points for improvement. If you are up to review it, notify me on my Talk. Thanks! Anon134 (talk) 02:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure I can review it. However, it would take a while. I'm extremely busy in real life right now. I will look at the article this weekend and if no one has done the review then I will start one (and it would likely take me a few days). --maclean 23:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jenny Stevens

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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Jenny Stevens, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Non-notable bio of unsuccessful candidate

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Orange Mike | Talk 14:45, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Four Award

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Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work all through on David Suzuki: The Autobiography

--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:10, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you...

Thank you for your support

Unfortunately, my RFA was closed recently with a final tally of 75½/38/10. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your support and I hope I can count on it in the future. Even though it didn't pass, it had a nearly 2 to 1 ratio of support and I am quite encouraged by those results. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral !votes and see what I can do to address those concerns that were brought up and resubmit in a few months. If you would like to assist in my betterment and/or co-nominate me in the future, please let me know on my talk page. Special thanks go to Schmidt, MICHAEL Q., TomStar81, and henrik for their co-nominations and support. — BQZip01 — talk