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Comments from 2003

Greetings! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you have questions or doubts of any sort, do not hesitate to post them on the Village Pump, somebody will respond ASAP. Other helpful pages include:

Have fun! --Jiang 04:33 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Please bold the title of the page in the first sentence of the article and use the phrase "See also" instead of "Also see". Thanks. --Jiang

I'm beginning to have second thoughts as to whether I should have moved .tv, do you have an opinion one way or the other? - Hephaestos 09:14, 2 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I may have jumped the gun by assuming US-centricity, but I would still maintain that it is not obvious to a non-American that an article called National Weather Service is going to refer to just the US, rather than national weather services in general, or to the weather service of another country. Jim

Hey - could you stop making redirect pages to articles that do not exist? --mav 00:04, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

When you made "ITS" into a disambig page, you should have used the "What Links Here" button and found all the places that linked to it, and changed them to point directly to the correct newly named page. Noel 14:53, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed you have uploaded a right arrow for chemical equations. Have you considered using the appropriate Unicode symbols? See for some examples. You can code them like this:

  • ← ←
  • → →
  • ↔ ↔

-- The Anome 10:49, 3 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Or use TeX, writing <math>x \rightarrow y \leftarrow z \leftrightarrow w</math> you see , if you like :) Dysprosia 10:53, 3 Sep 2003 (UTC)

And herein lies the problem: I see nothing with either of those! (d'oh!) That's why I uploaded the arrow, it's the only guaranteed way. :-) --radiojon 11:11, 2003 Sep 3 (UTC)

Why can't you see these? What browser are you using? The TeX markup at least generates images, visible to all but those that use Lynx hehe :) Dysprosia 11:17, 3 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I'm using IE6 on XP Pro. I tried TeX but that too tries to use Unicode for just a single character. I'm using plain old Times New Roman, so it's not some weird font either. I think just the arrow image (especially at only 202 bytes) works just dandy. :-) --radiojon 12:00, 2003 Sep 3 (UTC)

You might want to consider upgrading to the free Mozilla web browser: it handles Unicode correctly, and works just fine for me on a variety of platforms including Windows 2000 and Linux. You can download it from -- The Anome 12:09, 3 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Mozilla Firebird works too, and can be a bit more streamlined than Mozilla - take your pick, if you wish to convert. However, if you use a Unicode font as your default in IE, such as Lucida Sans Unicode, or Tahoma (I think) that should work too...
To avoid changing browsers, just change your preference to display TeX as PNG images. Click on Preferences in the top right, scroll down to the section Rendering Math, and choose Always render PNG. --TMC1221 21:56, Nov 8, 2003 (UTC)

Nice work on Chad (paper), but you don't need to link up so many words in Wiki articles (re Chad (paper)); I mean linking up "dispute", "corner", "result" for instance. It's a bit unnecessary, and I have a theory that it encourages people to add "dictionary definition" style entries. However it's good to link up things that people might not understand or will want to see as well, and you did good work with that :) Dysprosia 06:55, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)


Please see Talk:NATO about the name. --mav 02:46, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)


Hi Radiojon,

I see that you reverted my edit on Gigli. Please don't do that again. Wikipedia:Disambiguation explains that such pages should only list links where there is a real risk of confusion, and that they shouldn't contain dictionary definitions.—Eloquence 12:11, Jan 2, 2004 (UTC)


You asked:

Aren't Winston and Salem two separate cities?

This question has been addressed on the Winston-Salem, North Carolina entry. Thought you might care to know.
- Fennec 22:46, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Zero-byte image

Hello; I just deleted an image you uploaded back in September 2003, because it was zero bytes. It was Image:TampaBayTIGERrmap.png, and had the caption TIGER map of Tampa Bay area. It's quite possible you already re-uploaded it or know about the upload error, but I thought I'd let you know just in case. --Delirium 09:59, Feb 17, 2004 (UTC)

About your editing of radio pages

You have done a good job making some pages involving Atlanta FM radio stations more detailed, and then you brought up one station WASU in Albany, and I added it to the list. Can you expand this list to include more Albany stations?? Please note that basic characteristics are expected to be mentioned on the List of radio stations in Georgia (U.S. state) page but advanced characteristics are not. If you have any advanced characteristics, you may put them in the page for the station itself. (To find out what characteristics are basic and what are advanced, see the Talk:List of radio stations in Georgia (U.S. state) page. You may add more advanced characteristics if you have any not mentioned on that page.)

Thanks for adding extra articles to List of tornadoes and tornado outbreaks. The reason the articles you added weren't on there is that I could not find much info on these particular tornado events. I may need a little help on The Nashville Tornado of 1933. I am not familiar with this event!

BigT27 01:28, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

How much have you done??

Please read slowly and carefully:

With your editing of pages for Atlanta FM radio stations, you did a good job switching back to articles with FM in the article. However, you didn't do this to ALL of the stations. Here is a list of the same radio stations mentioned on that page, only with whether the main article (that is, the one that's not a re-direct) has FM in its name:

And here's something else to say, which is that I want to see if you know any stations for Albany, where only one station is present. Before you do so, please make sure you are mentioning the basic characteristics of the station (See the Discuss this page part of the Georgia radio stations article for what characteristics are basic and what are advanced.) If you have any advanced characteristics, you may put them on an article for the station itself. User

WNNX page

You expanded Q 100.5's Wikipedia article to include a ghost link to WNNX-FM, which is not on the List of radio stations in Georgia page. Can you put it in the List of radio stations in Georgia page, as well as giving it an article if you know enough about it?? User

How often do you modify pages??

I went into your User Contributions page and I see that you like to restrict the times you update your pages. Why?? 21:01, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Moving pages

Since you moved Glacier National Park, you need to fix all the pages that are now incorrectly aimed at what is a disambiguation page. Rmhermen 13:28, Apr 12, 2004 (UTC)


You're sure about all those MF broadcast stations in the US having the suffix "-AM" on their callsigns? K7jeb 09:24, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)


It is NEVER correct for an AM station to have the suffix "-AM", and it is only correct for a TV or FM station to have a suffix if there are other stations operating with the same call letters. For example, KMOV (TV channel 4) in St. Louis is legally licensed as KMOV. NOT as KMOV-TV since there are no other KMOVs in the country. At one time, the same station operated as KMOX-TV and was licensed as KMOX-TV. This was necessary to distinguish the TV station from the AM station (which is KMOX, NOT KMOX-AM). See the page for some more information. I hope this clears things up. Richardsur 16:05, 4 May 2004 (UTC)


Go to Talk:List of radio stations in Georgia (U.S. state) and scroll to the bottom. You will see that there is something that, although it relates to the radio station, it should not be brought up, even though it is related to the station, as I learned by reading Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. It is your responsibility to interpret anyone who puts a phone number at a radio station article as vandalism. 20:18, 11 May 2004 (UTC)


Hi. Re my moving Chihuahua (city) back to Chihuahua, I think that's in line with the "primary topic disambiguation" rule on Wikipedia:Disambiguation. Please scribble me a note if you disagree. Hajor 14:23, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

Consolidated city-county

You seem to be saying that Miami in effect abolished its city gov't, and turned all of its functions over to a county gov't elected jointly by Miamians and the other 30 cities' voters. Or is your text in the wrong article? --Jerzy(t)

Look at...

Look at Talk:WNKO. What do you think about what it says?? 01:46, 16 May 2004 (UTC)


Please be more careful when you revise pages. You edited the SAP page, but changed correct information to incorrect information. If you want a reasonably understandable explaination of how MTS stereo and SAP work, check out Richardsur 01:59, 16 May 2004 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Radio spectrum

Nicely done! A unusually useful implementation of the series box function. Hajor 02:58, 22 May 2004 (UTC)

Flatiron Building

I'm sorry, but I must strongly disagree with your move of the Flatiron Building to Flatiron Building (New York). The Flatiron Building in New York is by far the most famous, the article should link there. Philadelphia links to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and Flatiron Building should link to Flatiron Building. The standarad for a disambiguation page is for a redirect to go to the most outstanding article automatically with a link to a disambig. at the top.

The Flatiron Building in New York is thought by many architects to be one of the most distinctive buildings in the world, I have never seen the ones in Atlanta or Toronto referred to in that way. Also have you discussed moving the page on some wikiproject talk page, I'm not aware of? If not please don't move enitre pages without discussing it at relevant talk page.

-JCarriker 13:57, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)

Bad News

Bad News: there are getting to be increasingly more Wikipedians who want Georgia (country) moved to Georgia as if it didn't need dis-ambiguation, as indicated on Talk:Georgia. Please tell them the following message (if I do it myself, the probability that they will listen is less likely because I'm not a registered Wikipedian.)

This is the English version of Wikipedia. Article titles should be NPOV to regions where there is a large English-speaking population, such as the United States. If Georgia (country) moves to Georgia, it certainly is less NPOV in the United States, and the regions where it is more NPOV are in Asia, where there are not many regions where large English-speaking populations are found. It would be logical to move Georgia (country) to Georgia in the Georgian Wikipedia, but not the English Wikipedia. 16:08, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)


Go to the bottom of Talk:List of radio stations in Georgia (U.S. state). Can you try to find a good answer to this question?? 21:57, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I found one. I gave a category titled Category:Atlanta FM radio stations, which I made sub-categories of Category:Georgia (U.S. state) and Category:Radio. 00:22, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ice storm

Thanks for the meteorology help on ice storm. I was hoping someone who knew would come along and fix it up! -- ke4roh 00:36, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

List of United States television networks vs. List of United States broadcast television networks

I don't understand the need to move this article. A television network is a network of stations, not just a studio with a satellite uplink. I don't care what you call yourself, you're not a network if you only have one node. Certainly plenty of cable channels call themselves "networks" to make themselves sound significant, but that doesn't make them television networks.

In any case I'd think a move like this would have necessitated some discussion first. KeithTyler 17:07, Jun 22, 2004 (UTC)

Atlanta FM radio stations template

Did you see the orphaned Atlanta FM radio stations template that I found when I checked the links to WCLK-FM?? 13:39, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

  • I put the template in finally for many of the radio station articles. 14:12, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

TV stations

You also created a TV station template. I created some articles for some stations and put the template at the bottom just as I did with the FM radio stations. Then, a user named TheCustomOfLife put a message on my UserTalk page and has another thing that can be added. Go to my UserTalk page to find what it is. (Note that my IP number changes a lot, but the one it had when I wrote you this message is the exact same as the one TheCustomOfLife put a message on.) 22:48, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Interesting News

Somebody just added another category to WLTM-FM that is based primarily on what company owns it. Can you put similary categories to other Atlanta FM radio stations?? 01:56, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)


I have moved all the Atlanta -TV articles (except for WSB) to the four-letter call signs, with redirects to people who have typed -TV. There was a naming system in effect beforehand, with television stations just keeping the four call letters in the official article name. Mike H 02:16, Jul 2, 2004 (UTC)

There is no reason that those articles need to be at -TV, for two reasons:

1) There are already articles without the -TV, so different articles on the same thing do not need to have some with nothing and some with -TV.

2) I did not redirect WSB because the -TV is necessary to differentiate from the -FM and -AM. Please do not change any more of these. It's in the interests of conformity. Reply on my talk page as soon as you get this message. Mike H 02:36, Jul 2, 2004 (UTC)

I saw what you did with WGCL. I feel dumb now. You're not going to do it to articles that don't need differentiating, are you? Mike H 02:38, Jul 2, 2004 (UTC)

I say keep the callsigns the way they are, if there are no other radio or television stations with the same call letters. (WEAR) would be an example. However, if there are others, splitting it into -TV would be appropriate. (WGCL) would be an example of that. Mike H 14:51, Jul 2, 2004 (UTC)

I prefer accuracy over consistency and don't like what Mike H is doing. The FCC database is easy enough to access and is the only official guide to callsigns. I think it is fine to have a redirect from WZZZ to WZZZ-TV if the station is licensed as WZZZ-TV and is the only WZZZ in operation, but the article should remain at WZZZ-TV if WZZZ-TV is how the station is licensed. This makes it easier if some other WZZZ were to become operational in the future.
On the other hand, if a TV station were to be licensed as WZZZ (no -TV), then the article should be at WZZZ. As long as a TV is operating as WZZZ, the FCC will not assign those call letters to any other station (AM, FM or TV) unless WZZZ would first agree to a change (to WZZZ-TV, for example).
Finally, it is important to realize that AM stations never have a suffix, but TV and FM stations may or may not. The only way to know is to look it up. Just my 2 cents. --Richardsur 22:45, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

This appears to be the biggest debate on what the best article title of a Wikipedia article is, even bigger than the one on U.S. twenty dollar bill, which was titled American twenty dollar bill before the debate began, which was over after it was decided that the page should be moved. Is there ever going to be a time when THIS debate is over?? 23:28, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I didn't think it would cause so much...whatever this all is. In any case, if it's that important to either of you, I will abide by whatever you deem fit. Mike H 23:29, Jul 2, 2004 (UTC)

Actually, AM stations can and do have -AM suffixes. However, this is rare, since most AM stations pre-date most FM and TV stations. The lack of -AM suffixes is therefore de facto (by being first) and not de jure (by law or FCC).

Lets add another situation here: WCBS. Technically, the AM does not have a suffix. Should it therefore be noted as WCBS-AM, or WCBS (AM) as the FCC often does, or what? (Remembering that we want to be accurate, but not confuse or misdirect users who don't know the difference.) –radiojon 01:56, 2004 Jul 3 (UTC)

Personally, when I have been writing articles for stations that share calls and are part of the same "group", I have been putting information for all of the stations into the same article. I know this isn't the ideal way to solve the problem, but it works. See WCOL or WBNS for examples. I'm open to suggestions from you or anyone else on changes/improvements to what I am doing. Obviously, what I am doing now isn't appropriate for situations such as WSTR.
As for -AM stations having suffixes, I was not aware that there were any stations that had them. I had been told by a friend in the industry that "AM" was considered "default" and was never used as a suffix, even when multiple stations shared callsigns. I can certainly see situations where the -AM suffix would be useful, even if not the norm. --Richardsur 21:00, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

List of people named for other people

I just heard you have a list of people named for other people. Check out the Honored Americans project in Talk:George Washington. It certainly is a good thing for that. 14:55, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Georgia state highways

Just out of curiousity, why did you make Georgia state highways 401-407 redirects to various interstates? olderwiser 03:19, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Capital Beltway

I moved Interstate 495 back to Capital Beltway. There are numerous "Interstate 495s." Please discuss moves like this before carrying them out. Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 11:56, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Linked terms

"Metonymy", eh? That's what I like about wikipedia - I learn something new every day.

However, may I suggest that if you add an unusual term like that to an article, it should be defined within the article, rather than requiring people to click to another article to find out what it means. I swiped a phrase from the article and added it to Inside the Beltway. (Of course, "unusual" is subjective!)

Also, I removed a few of the links you put into Inside the Beltway because they didn't seem germane to the article (e.g., building) and because too many linked words can make an article hard to read. This will become an increasingly problem as wikipedia and wikictionary grow - it'll get to the point where every other word in an article could be linked! - DavidWBrooks 19:01, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)


You have created too many links. This makes the text hard to read. Many of your links are to non-existent pages. What's the point? We can assume that readers know the definition of most common nouns. They can look up words if if there is no link supplied. Linking to every noun just doesn't make sense. Carried a little further and you'll have linked every word.

I honestly believe that most readers won't need links to honey, rasin, celebration, wedding, Christmas, seeds, spices, sugar, concentration, Europe, harvest, luck, year, law, holidays, England, 19th century, Mail order, 1913, 18th century, bakery, gifts, mailed, friends, butter, dough, saturated, alcoholic, liqueur, management, powdered sugar, mold, brandy, wine, linen, store, age, ridiculed, food, jokes, shelf life, family, writer, theory, Denver, questions, recyled, meters, insult, individuals, insane, 1821, expression, and 1935.

You also have links that aren't there: Calvin Trillin, Fruitcake Lady, Great Fruitcake Toss, no holds barred.

Really, there's no need for a link to friends. The link is to the television show!

True or false??

True or false: WZGC-FM will probably change callsign sometime between now and October 2004. One important note is that after you move the article to whatever the callsign will change to, the WZGC-FM will be kept as a re-direct unless modified otherwise. 15:39, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Usage in check digits

I'm not sure whether it should be under modulo or modular arithmetic, but its use in calculating check digits is important and should be mentioned in whichever article[s] it is appropriate for. –radiojon 01:58, 2004 Jul 31 (UTC)

Definitely it should be in modular arithmetic and NOT in modulo. Michael Hardy 17:32, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

You have spend 3 days...

...without making a single contribution to Wikipedia. What happened?? 17:01, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

True or false??

True or false: when you moved the articles of some Atlanta FM radio and TV stations from articles with a hypen to articles with parentheses, you followed a set rule (that is, you didn't just choose to keep the ones you wanted and move the ones you wanted.) 01:17, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

True. The ones which do not legally have a suffix assigned by the FCC as part of their callsign were moved from Wxxx-FM to Wxxx (FM) or from Wxxx-TV to Wxxx (TV), the standard method for Wikipedia disambiguation.   –radiojon 18:49, 2004 Aug 11 (UTC)


Why did you revert my partial revert? Reapting again:

  • Towa Tei is not a Jungle (music) DJ, but "Jungle DJ" was his artist name, so linking to Jungle Music is pointless
  • Most of Deee-Lite's work was not successfull, so no one will write an article about every single and every album, so there is no need to add red links, especially one of the links was wrong, pointing to a Barry White song.
  • Why did you remove the fanpage? As there is no official Homepage, this is the best source of information
  • It is not necessary to add red links to both the pseudonym and the real name of an artist.

Thanks for reading Arved 10:28, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

True or false??

True or false: you know enough about WQXI-AM to expand the station's article from being a substub. (I created this article because it was brought to my attention when you added a link to it at the dis-ambiguation page WQXI.) 00:19, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

In regards to your question in the edit summary, Logo was deleted so that Logotype can be moved there. See Talk:Logotype for reasons. Please don't write at Logo, since pages cannot be moved to unempty pages. Feel free to move Logotype yourself after Logo has been deleted.

What was at Logo is now at Logo (word). ··gracefool | 01:34, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Infinity Broadcasting Stations

I just created a category for this that was brought to my attention when I saw it as a category for WZGC (FM) to be put into. Any categories you can think of that it can be a sub-category of?? 23:25, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Atlanta FM radio stations template

Look at the request I wrote on the Atlanta FM radio stations template. To make sure you know this, it is because there is now a duplicated frequency. 00:28, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Transgendered - Correct definition (RE: Your comment on Rupaul talk page)

That is not correct. Transgenderism has nothing to do with a sex change operation. A TRANSEXUAL is someone who has had a sex change or is using hormones or medical procedure to change his or her gender. The term transgendered is intended to include ALL individuals who live outside of traditionally accepted gender roles. For instance, famous murder victim Brandon Teena, who was a lesbian living as a male (but who had no type of sex change operation,) was a transgendered person. So are drag queens, drag kings, cross dressers, etc... Ergo, to use an analogy: all transvestites are transgendered, but not all transgenders are transvestites. Pacian 02:11, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

High Occupancy Vehicle

You moved this page to a version with a dash despite the fact that a quick google showed about a 9-to-1 preference for the dashless version. Justification? —Morven 05:11, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)

A high-occupancy vehicle is a compound adjective, like high-speed rail. Also, note that Google ignores hyphenation, showing identical results either way.   –radiojon 05:26, 2004 Sep 13 (UTC)
My technique involved examining the first four pages of results returned by Google, rather than different queries. Only a couple of results used the dash. I suspect there is a common trend to omit the dash in a capitalised expansion of an initialism (and a common US tendency to omit the dashes in general) —Morven 06:18, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)


I deleted KFI (AM) so you can move another page to that location. Thue | talk 17:24, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Atlanta category title

How much work is it to change a category title?? Can categories be re-directs?? 14:03, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Atlanta, Georgia vs. Atlanta as a category title

Three days ago, you asked the category of Atlanta, Georgia to be moved to Atlanta; yet you haven't done any for 2 1/2 days. What happened?? 02:46, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Edits of yours

Radiojon, how come all of your edits within the last few days are during the late evening in the Eastern Time Zone?? 02:26, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Callsign change

To make sure you know this, a callsign change of an Atlanta FM radio station has happened recently; it was WMAX-FM to WWVA-FM. I put a modified form of the original WMAX-FM into WWVA-FM with a slight variant to update its history; then put WMAX-FM on Vfd. Then, a few Wikipedians saw it and it will probably survive as a re-direct. I corrected the link on the Atlanta FM radio stations template. Do you have any opinions about radio stations that change their callsign?? 19:19, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The page originally at WMAX-FM should have been moved to WWVA-FM, not cut-and-paste. (An admin needs to move the edit history manually now.) Other than that it, was completely correct to update the page and the template. Make sure that the redirect from station's old moniker (common name) gets changed to point to the new callsign.   –radiojon 04:19, 2004 Sep 20 (UTC)

Opinions on a Talk Squared Page

You wrote a speedy deletion message on a talk page. To make sure you know this, Speedy deletion tags have a link to the talk page of the article put on, and this would be a link to a talk^2 (talk squared) page. I brought up this subject at Wikipedia talk:Talk page, but no one has responded. 00:06, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Radio station change question

Go to Talk:WWVA-FM. There is a question that I want to see if you can answer. Try your best answer. 01:00, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)

400-Series Highway

I'm wondering why you moved 400-Series Highway to 400-Series Highway (Ontario). Is there really a need to disambiguate this? I did a quick search on Google and did not find any other mention of a 400-Series Highway system in any other jurisdiction. Also, all the articles linking to 400-Series Highway are all Ontario-related... Darkcore 02:17, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Georgia also has 400-series highways, as I'm sure a few others of the 60 total states and provinces of the U.S. and Canada (and possibly other countries) do.   –radiojon 21:15, 2004 Sep 29 (UTC)
Perhaps, but (a) I don't see why Georgia would need a separate article about its 400-series highways (and actually, Georgia's so-called "400-series highways" are actually Interstate highways), and (b) if there were to be such an article, then you would disambiguate there (i.e., 400-series highways in Georgia). The 400-Series highway system in Ontario is quite well-known -- moreso than the Georgia one -- and deserves to be in this namespace. Darkcore 01:56, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Changes you made

One question: Why did you change the alphabetical order of clipping? - Logariasmo 20:56, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Didn't realise it was in that order. Really, I think the article is too lengthy and should be broken up (which would render the order sort of moot).   –radiojon 21:15, 2004 Sep 29 (UTC)


If you're going to move a page, as in Great St. Bernard Pass, the least you could do is to fix the double redir you created as a result. Stan 04:24, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

No need to get upset, I was just in a rush and forgot to check.   –radiojon 22:55, 2004 Oct 2 (UTC)

Moves II

I think you have caused some confusion by voting for the deletion of the Gallagher page (a disambiguation page). The reason you give ("+{{VfD}}, to move comedian back here") is something I do not understand: Do you believe Gallagher (US comedian), hardly known outside the U.S., is the only Gallagher?

The page was actually deleted, and then there was a red link even on Wikipedia:Links to disambiguating pages. I have just created a redirect; please do not move it around again. All the best, <KF> 17:39, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
The only person (or other thing) known by only "Gallagher" (a stage name) is comedian Leo Anthony Gallagher. Quoting from Wikipedia: Disambiguation: Disambiguation pages are not search indices -- do not add links that merely contain part of the page title where there is no significant risk of confusion. The page at Gallagher (disambiguation) shouldn't exist at all, because it is simply a search index, and certainly shouldn't be in place of the article at Gallagher. Also, it is a moot point that he is from the U.S. or anywhere else for that matter, he is still the only thing called just "Gallagher". Others only have Gallagher as part of the name, and therefore (per Wikipedia policy) don't get disambiguated.   –radiojon 22:55, 2004 Oct 2 (UTC)

Georgia categories

Go to Category talk:Georgia. Can you answer that question?? 01:55, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)


While I was studying RC, I saw you create 2 re-directs to a non-existent article. Do you plan on creating it?? 00:01, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Midtown Atlanta move

Curious why you moved Midtown Atlanta to Midtown (Atlanta)? A quick glance at the Midtown dab page and following those links will reveal there are now three different formats for the three different Midtowns that are districts/neighborhoods of major American cities. Autiger 05:42, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Radio Stations

Several specified states of the United States, including North Carolina and South Dakota, now have more than one list of radio stations, the difference among the lists is the way the stations are organized. Can you try doing it with the list of radio stations in Georgia?? (See List of radio stations in Georgia (U.S. state) for the list itself.) 01:55, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Just FYI, the reason I changed [[KSL Newsradio|KSL (AM)]] to [[KSL-AM]] is twofold, A) to make it consistant with the TV and FM station (which no longer exists) and B) because there are articles that actually link to it that way.

If you notice, there were no articles that actually link to KSL (AM) except for the KSL diambiguation page where it was.

Thanks - Jon, Conqueror of Men 17:02, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

TV Station template problem

A few of the links on the Atlanta TV template are re-directs, for example the link for the 55. Anything on what to do with the link?? 00:56, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Yesterday, I created an article for WTSH-FM and then it got deleted today. Later, I created the article again and it got a speedy delete an hour later. Then, I removed the speedy delete and put just 2 more things on it, an external link and a music format. How do you currently describe the WTSH-FM article the way it currently looks?? 22:34, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Value added tax

I see that you moved value added tax to value-added tax.

While I agree that, on general principles, it should be hyphenated as "value-added" rather than "value added", the hyphen is not present in common English usage in, for example, the UK [1] or the European Union [2] or Thailand [3] (although I see that the Irish Revenue think otherwise [4]). There is some discussion in Talk:Value added tax. I think it should be moved back. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:30, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

category:people known by one name

Please see discussion on talk:List of people known by one name. -- Rick Block 02:35, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

category:Mute Records recording artist

Hi - I saw your {{movecat}} in category:Mute recording artists. I think I'd rather we delete this category (and the few other "artist by label" categories under category:Record labels) since:

  1. Very few existing articles are categorized this way
  2. Lots of artists record for lots of labels
  3. I think most people aren't aware of (nor particularly care) for which record label an artist records.

I'd be fine with articles containing lists, but using categorization for this strikes me as overkill. Comments? -- Rick Block 17:08, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Cal Poly

Your input is requested regarding the page names at Talk:Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. Please also fix all double redirects after you move pages, but these moves should be discussed before they are done or at lease explained. --Jiang 06:42, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Christmas trees

Hi Radiojon - curious why you keep on insisting on putting various items back that I change to try to improve the page:
1. Virginia Pine doesn't have sharper needles than other pines like Scots Pine (and a lot less sharp than some trees I've seen sold as christmas trees, like Sitka Spruce)
2. "A few less-traditional conifers are also being produced, such as cedar and juniper, often in a container and sometimes as topiary for a porch or patio" - this section looks like it refers to real trees, so why keep moving it back into the artificial trees section? Or are they artificial trees made to look like cedars and junipers?. Also if you're talking about real trees, no grower would ever grow cedars as christmas trees, they're too expensive to produce, and the needles drop off far too quickly, long before almost any other conifer would.
3. Links - what on earth is the point of adding links for so many words like 'gimmick'? As I see you've had pointed out several times earlier on your talk page, too many links clutters things up and leaves it a lot less readable, and if not checked, may lead to inappropriate or irrelevant pages (try some of these links!!). Links should only be used where they help, not to every third or fourth word.
4. Skirts - why would anyone wrap a piece of cloth round a christmas tree? It would hide the lower part of the tree from view, which defeats the point of having it.
5. "Even since dripless candles, electric lights and artificial trees have been used" replacing "Even when . . ." - your wording suggests candles are no longer used, which is not true (see the photo!). BTW there's no such thing as a dripless christmas tree candle (even if the manufacturer claims they are, they still drip!).
6. Why so insistent on the 'scrap of fabric' wording, as if people deliberately went out of their way to find the nastiest old rag in the house to use?
MPF 21:44, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to...

  1. ...all U.S. state, county, and city articles...
  2. ...all articles...

using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. So far over 90% of people who have responded have done this.

Nutshell: Wikipedia articles can be shared with any other GFDL project but open/free projects using the incompatible Creative Commons Licenses (e.g. WikiTravel) can't use our stuff and we can't use theirs. It is important to us that other free projects can use our stuff. So we use their licenses too.

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template (or {{MultiLicensePD}} for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:


Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} with {{MultiLicensePD}}. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. It's important to know, even if you choose to do anything so I don't keep asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk) 14:18, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)

Railroad page titles with & vs and

Hi. I noticed that you made moves of at least two railroad pages from titles using and to titles using &. A preference for the spelled out word and has been discussed and reached on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains page. What was your reasoning behind the moves? (I'm just curious more than anything else) In the case of the DRGW article, it was originally using & and was moved to and a week or so ago to conform with the naming conventions. slambo 23:24, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

Category:Florida railroads

You just added Florida Midland Railroad (historic) to this category; it is already in a subcategory (Category:Florida Atlantic Coast Line Railroad precursors) and should not go in the main one. I made the subcategories to avoid having one huge category. --SPUI 00:15, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Category:Television technology and Category:Broadcast engineering

I believe the theory in having the Broadcast category under the Television category is that "Television" is being used here in its broadest sense, as pertaining to any kind of electronic moving video, rather than in the sense of strictly RF broadcast television. Hence, in that broader sense, RF broadcasting it is only one aspect of television video technology, as there is also producing it, transferring it from point to point, and recording it. --Gary D 22:16, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)


I need some help. Would you mind either commenting on my talk page or commenting here about the stubs you have created, why were they created (give me the criteria for an article that should use this stub), and what project it was meant for (if any). Thank you so much! -- AllyUnion (talk) 06:09, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Also on the subject of stubs... I notice a couple of US places that you've made (good!) and given geo-stub templates to. That's fine, but there is a separate US-geo-stub for American places, which will make them easier to find in future! Grutness|hello? Grutness.jpg 01:52, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Pumped-storage hydroelectricity

Hello. Could you help fix all the links to this article that go through the redirect page without the hyphen? Thanks. Michael Hardy 22:21, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)


KYW is the callsign of exactly one station. The callsign of KYW-TV is "KYW-TV". You have created a disambiguation page where none is needed, particularly given the link at the top of the radio page. 03:49, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Are you on vacation??

What happened?? I studied your user contributions and you haven't made a single edit within 10 days! Are you on vacation?? Georgia guy 01:53, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Default heading depth

Hey, just to let you know that the default heading depth is general 2. Burgundavia 21:44, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

DeKalb-Peachtree Airport

I rolled back your edit on this page, as it linked to too many items that it did not need to in my opinion. Burgundavia 06:07, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

Georgia Radio Stations

Hi, what do you think of the move to List of radio stations in Georgia by city? Any opposition? I'm thinking it could be better if we just put all of the different styles of listing (by city, my call letters, etc...) on the same page as sub-links rather than as seperate pages. Any input? Thanks! Maclyn611 14:57, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)


I told an anonymous user the rule you chose for distinguishing stations where FCC assigns the AM/FM/TV suffix as part of the callsign from those that don't. This user appears to disagree based on what they wrote at the bottom of my talk page. Georgia guy 01:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Western and Atlantic Railroad vs. Western & Atlantic Railroad

I noticed you'd moved the page back to the title with the ampersand (&) after I'd moved it back to it's original title. The standards that we've established for titles on articles about railroads (as discussed on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains) is to use the word "and" rather than the ampersand. Why should this article's name use the ampersand and not comply with the standards that we've agreed upon as a group? slambo 13:08, May 3, 2005 (UTC)

Another issue to consider is that the talk page linked to the article's todolist via a template that grabs the page title. Because of this, the article's todolist is no longer connected to the article. Page moves don't automatically move all of the subpages. slambo 13:49, May 3, 2005 (UTC)

Have you noticed this yet??

Remember the rule you made in August 2004 about the difference between -FM or -TV and (FM) or (TV) in a Wikipedia article on an Atlanta broadcasting station?? However, about a week ago, a user (Mulad) was moving many of the articles to titles with no suffix at all (e.g. "WNNX".) Have you noticed this?? Georgia guy 20:15, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

I was attempting to make the stations consistent with what has been the practice across most of the other U.S. radio/TV markets' radio station names. When people are looking up a radio or TV station, they will most likely type in a four-letter callsign, without a suffix (and especially without a "(FM)" at the end). Wikipedia's normal policy is to put articles under the most commonly-used name. There is some disambiguation needed when callsigns are duplicated. In most cases on Wikipedia, the standard has been to move stations to "WXYZ (AM)", "WXYZ-FM", and "WXYZ-TV" (with a few other oddities like -CA, etc.). The reason for the parenthesis-encapsulated "(AM)" instead of using "-AM" is because the FCC does not officially recognize "-AM" as a suffix. When articles are created for FM stations with "(FM)", there is a strong chance that a duplicate article will be created later, either just as a four-letter call, or with a -FM suffix. (That being said, there are some cases where a "(FM)" or even "(TV)" name is called upon, since there are occasions where an FM station doesn't have a suffix, but a TV station does.. This is unusual, however.) —User:Mulad (talk) 19:49, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

Sandy Spring[s]

Only one? [5] It needs to be disambiged. Today, tomorow. "Spring" and "Springs" are close enough they need to be in the same disambig page. Stbalbach 14:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

That is incorrect. Disambiguation pages are used when there is a risk of confusion. First paragraph. Sandy Spring or Sandy Springs can very certainly, and often are, confused (a simple google search will show). I also find it hard to beleive there is only two places in the entire world with these names. In fact there is an actual historic Spring here called Sandy Spring, which different from the town, im sure there are other such examples, with a little searching. These should be disambiged. Stbalbach 18:22, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Moving Edgewater, Chicago to Edgewater (Chicago)

Hi, your move of Edgewater, Chicago to Edgewater (Chicago) has caused major problems with articles and other redirect pages that link to Edgewater, Chicago. There are now double redirects, and many pages that link to the andersonville neighborhoods via Edgewater, Chicago#andersonville. Also, all of the chicago community areas follow the format Neighborhood, Chicago. By moving Edgewater, Chicago you have also broken the trend of community area formatting. Please rethink your move, or fix all of the linked pages. If you need help, let me know. — oo64eva (Alex) (U | T | C) @ 02:24, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

  • The use of "Community, City" is what breaks the formatting trend and proper disambiguation in the first place. Edgewater is not a city and Chicago is not a state. As far as a Wikimedia bug causing page anchors not to work on redirects, I didn't know that, but I will try to help you fix some of them.   –radiojon 02:29, 2005 May 25 (UTC)
    • Groan.... Yeah, I certinaly wasn't the originator of that trend to make the pagename Community, City. I also have no desire to change 77 community area page names. But if you would like to and are willing to fix what links there go ahead and be bold. — oo64eva (Alex) (U | T | C) @ 02:58, May 25, 2005 (UTC)


Redirect deleted, page moved. Have fun. -- Cyrius| 03:41, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

And IntelliStar. -- Cyrius| 04:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Extended Data Services

I don't think this article qualifies as a TLA just because it mentions or explains some. But EDS and XDS do. The category to use, however, is not Category:TLA (which looks like it should be deleted), but Category:TLAs. Rl 20:58, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • It was moved from XDS (because that also has other meanings), and therefeore the TLA category in it is just an artifact (because I forgot to remove it). It may have ended up back in there because of an edit conflict.   –radiojon 21:05, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC)
  • Yes. The reason for my message was that your edit reinserted the category after I had removed it. Rl 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Arlene should stay at Hurricane Arlene; the disambiguation pages go with the most intense storm named that, which is, in this case, a hurricane. If Arlene earns her own article, then THAT will become Tropical Storm Arlene and Hurricane Arlene will become a disambiguation page. But until then, the disambig pages shouldn't be moved just because the most recent storm didn't reach hurricane-strength. --Golbez 02:49, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

  • It has nothing to do with the most recent storm. Every hurricane, by definition, must be a tropical storm first. That's why the disambig page belongs there.   –radiojon 02:52, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)

Inductive lighting and sulfur lamps

You define inductive lighting as a fluorescent technology, yet you include sulfur lamps in the category. Sulfur lamps do not produce light by fluorescing. The light comes from a glowing plasma. Sulfur lamps are grouped together with inductive fluorescent lamps because they are both electrodeless. I'm not sure the term inductive can be applied to sulfur lamps. From what I have read, induction lamps use electromagnetic induction to generate a magnetic field in an induction coil. None of this is true for sulfur lamps. Sulfur lamps produce light from sulfur heated to the plasma state.

You also list sulfur lamps as having phosphors in the article on radiofluoresce. Nothing I have read about sulfur lamps ever mentions the use of phosphors. Can you clarify these things for me? Thanks.

SDC 21:59, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Template:ChattFM, which you created, has been nominated for deletion at Templates for deletion. BlankVerse 09:34, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

lots of edits, not an admin

Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:30, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

FM radio infobox

Recently, someone created an infobox for FM radio stations that I added to WKLS (FM). Can you add in the missing sections?? Georgia guy 00:22, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages) is a fairly recent guideline that you might be interested in. Josh Parris 5 July 2005 01:29 (UTC)

Thermochromics etc.

I noticed that you have been merging all of the chromic articles, thermochromic paints and such. I wanted to make you aware of the thermochromic Inks article in case you wanted to merge it too. Jaberwocky6669 July 5, 2005 02:43 (UTC)

My bad, I see you got it already! Jaberwocky6669 July 5, 2005 02:44 (UTC)

Hurricane articles

The standard is, if all the storms for a name were tropical storms, it goes under "Tropical Storm X". If even one reached hurricane strength, we use "Hurricane X". You'd have a *lot* of articles to move, and frankly, this makes more sense - a LOT more people are going to search for "Hurricane X" than "Tropical Storm X". --Golbez July 8, 2005 00:15 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Movecat

Template:Movecat has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Movecat. Thank you. --Kbdank71 16:45, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

ITV moved to Independent Television

Hi Radiojon, I have posted about your decision to move the article on Talk:Independent Television. --Marknew 14:56, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Article name

You may be interested to know that the same sort of debate of article naming is going on over at Talk:List of California state routes. BlankVerse 04:03, 13 August 2005 (UTC)


I think you may want to do this another way. Ask me if you need help. — Xiongtalk* 00:21, 2005 August 16 (UTC)


You made the portmanteau change to flotel at exactly the same time as I clicked the edit button to make the same change (as in, I saw "combination" when I refreshed, then when I clicked "edit" I saw "portmantaeu"). Odd coincidence, but pretty cool. :) AySz88^-^ 18:47, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

2005 Atlantic hurricane season

I see you noted that TD26 would be named Beta. I had earlier removed that sentence, as there's always an off-chance that something else skips the TD stage and gets named Beta first. -- NSLE (Communicate!) <Contribs> 07:00, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Tropical storm Alpha

Hey there - I performed the move for you. See you around the Wiki :-) --HappyCamper 04:08, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Please stop putting this up for delete. -- NSLE (Communicate!) <Contribs> 00:02, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Stop putting it up for delete or you WILL be liable for a block... -- NSLE (Communicate!) <Contribs> 05:34, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Fixing links - clearance and clearance (medicine)

If you move articles that have been established, it is a courtesy to everyone if you fix the links so that the related articles link to the new location. That's pretty easy to do if you click on "What links here." Nephron 06:14, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Please see the electric efficiency talk page

Hello Radiojon. Please go see the talk:electrical efficiency page, there is something relevant to you there.

  • Thanks for the answer. There is again new relevant things there for you.


If you keep blanking a live talk page you will be reported. Such behaviour is totally unacceptable, SqueakBox 16:36, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Blanking or redirecting a live talk page is vandalism made worse by the fact that you have put a speedy on the article and the talk page is the place to discuss that. you have suppressed my comments. that is unacceptable, SqueakBox 17:45, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Basicallyu you have blanked my comments twice. That is not how we do things here at wikipedia even if we don't like the commenmts, and I have reported you for vandalism. Don't make it worse by blanking my talk page comments again. thankyou, SqueakBox 17:50, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Please calm down.

"10:23, November 4, 2005 (hist) (diff) Rootkit (****WILL SOMEONE PLEASE DELETE THIS BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE REVERTS IT?! rootkit has MORE THAN FIFTY TIMES the number of results on Google as "root kit" and therefore root kit needs to be moved here!)"

That will not get an admin to help you any faster. If you want help moving things, ask in a calm, civil manner, or you will simply be ignored. --Golbez 18:14, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

What happened??

Have you been so busy not able to edit Wikipedia?? You haven't edited since November 4. Georgia guy 01:12, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Classic Rock

Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most liked classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! User:Rentastrawberry/Signature 02:59, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Sources for SciTrek

Hello, good work on SciTrek, and thanks for the contribution. However, you did not provide any references or sources in the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. From what websites, books, or other places did you learn the information that you added to SciTrek? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? You can simply add links, or see WP:CITET if you wish to review some of the different citation methods. Thanks! Lupin|talk|popups 23:21, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


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